The Abrahamic religions, these are, Judaism, Christianity and Islam have instilled and preach all the time that we are sinners and guilty of many transgressions, some even called "of death". According to them God is perfect, just and good to infinity, and man is guilty, evil, sinful, and miserable even by nature, and sometimes it seems that also to infinity.
While considering that the God of the Lord is indeed Infinite in all that we have pointed out as Virtue, the notion of sin comes from the Jewish Old Testament, which is in part a legal treatise of Jehovah, the god of this world or Satan, reason why the man can be defined as a supposed sinner, but according to the measuring rules of this god, not of the True God, the God of the Lord of the Heavens.
They preach that we are guilty, sinful, and even come to consider man as a miserable being that not even the faith he has belongs to him, but is entirely a grace from God. That his works are worthless, and that forgiveness is simply because God so provides; and all as long as even atoning sacrifices are offered, especially that of Christ on the cross, in the case of Christians. That is, on top of being guilty of sins, man is also guilty of the death of Christ.
This is a great mind-control ploy to make man a guilty, malleable, sheep-like being who doesn't wake up to the truth and is free. Even Biblical Christian Salvationist doctrines make it very clear that man must be rescued from sin, and the nature that is in him, which is obviously already divine in itself, is put in less, since our Spirits come from God.
There are then two important points to clarify:
1. Man is as he is because he was thus created, not because he has fallen into mortal sin from the beginning. What is defined as evil according to the standards of the god of this world Jehovah is nothing more than a genetic programming that he has put in the human, so that the culprit is Jehovah not man.
The Serpent of Eden is a later recast of the Sumerian account of creation, where it gives him a knowledge that Jehovah forbids man, and therefore he commands his destruction, but not because that knowledge is actually sinful, but that knowledge it is not part of the plans of the aforementioned god of this world and time. And it is the reason that in Sumerian mythology the Serpent is actually an enlightening being, wise and giver of wisdom, just like in other cultures, like the aborigines of America.
2. The laws of which man is supposedly a transgressor are defined by Jehovah in his law, which frees man from all guilt in relation to the One and True God of this Universe.
In conclusion, the idea of sin and guilt makes man very miserable. There are those who are not happy even with the payment of that debt for suffering, but they self-flagellate endlessly bringing a spiritual death instead of life.
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Post #2Are you talking about yourself here? Or about everyone?Leonardo Betetto wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:15 pm ..
In conclusion, the idea of sin and guilt makes man very miserable. ...
I think this has several interesting aspects. Frist is, what is sin? By what I have understood sin is to reject God, or to live without God. If person chooses to reject God, why would he be miserable?
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Post #3Sin may be defined in two ways:
1. What is sin in this world, for the king of this world: Jehovah Satan: law or torah of Moses.
2. Cosmic sin, what we can define in other level ... So, Jehovah is a sinner, a cosmic sinner and guilty.
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1. What is sin in this world, for the king of this world: Jehovah Satan: law or torah of Moses.
2. Cosmic sin, what we can define in other level ... So, Jehovah is a sinner, a cosmic sinner and guilty.
Thanks ...
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