THE EXTRATERRESTRIALS ARE HERE

[Ross]

For those who don't follow this subject; congress has recently been occupied taking seriously and assessing claims from whistle blowers and experts in this field that there has been a government cover up of visitation by vehicles and pilots from other worlds, some of which have been brought down by electromagnetic pulse weapons, and hidden and stored from the public from the time of the first atomic bombs, and beginning with the first atomic storage site at Roswell. A black government controlling all that is top secret behind the democratic temporary and visible government with president and political parties. This is one issue.

The other is; if multiple extra terrestrial civilizations do exist, hundreds of thousands or millions of years in advancement of ours, and are and have been monitoring earth and its occupants, how does this throw the Bibles accounts of creation out of the window?

Could an eternal God have waited from eternity past, just to put man on this planet 6000 years ago? Or is all of the above true, and are we at an age when there is about to be some outrageous evidence presented of life all over the universe to shock conventional theological belief?

[William]

For those who don't follow this subject; congress has recently been occupied taking seriously and assessing claims from whistle blowers and experts in this field that there has been a government cover up of visitation by vehicles and pilots from other worlds, some of which have been brought down by electromagnetic pulse weapons, and hidden and stored from the public from the time of the first atomic bombs, and beginning with the first atomic storage site at Roswell. A black government controlling all that is top secret behind the democratic temporary and visible government with president and political parties. This is one issue.

The other is; if multiple extra terrestrial civilizations do exist, hundreds of thousands or millions of years in advancement of ours, and are and have been monitoring earth and its occupants, how does this throw the Bibles accounts of creation out of the window?

Could an eternal God have waited from eternity past, just to put man on this planet 6000 years ago? Or is all of the above true, and are we at an age when there is about to be some outrageous evidence presented of life all over the universe to shock conventional theological belief?

The OP raises two key questions:

Has there been a long-term government cover-up of extraterrestrial visitation?
If extraterrestrial civilizations exist and have been monitoring Earth, how does this impact biblical theology?
There is strong evidence suggesting that both of these issues are deeply intertwined.

On Government Cover-Up of ETs and Secrecy:
There is growing support for the claim that military-industrial corporations, rather than governments themselves, hold the key to disclosure. According to researcher and former Anglican Archdeacon Paul Wallis:

"Clearly, corporations involved in military-industrial technology have had the fence around disclosure and ET tech for a long time. The reverse engineering of UFO crash retrievals has been privatized to those corporations for a very long time, and in my book The Invasion of Eden, I point out that if we really want to know what is going on in terms of current contact and collaboration, that's where we should be looking. Maybe rather than banging on the doors of the Pentagon, we should be talking to Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and Skunk Works—that's where the answers lie."

"In 2024, we're seeing this amazing increase of orbs and drones over US airspace and around the world, and anyone following the news will realize that something has changed in terms of the control of the narrative."

"2025 is going to be the most embarrassing year for the Christian churches with regard to the process of disclosure and ET contact. I don't think we will have seen this level of cover-up or panic since Fatima more than a century ago."

"Clearly, within the industry of military-industrial technology, there are groups who are just letting their toys out to play, and I think it might not be for a single agenda because there have been plural agendas around the cover-up and around disclosure for a very long time."
"In The Eden Conspiracy, I show that this process began thousands of years ago with the narrative shift in the Bible—a shift from a collection of paleo-contact, which in the past we interpreted as polytheism, to monotheism. A covering up of ancestral memory."

This suggests that secrecy surrounding extraterrestrial technology goes beyond governments and into private entities, where accountability is even more difficult to enforce. The fact that Congress is now struggling with military intelligence over disclosure further supports this idea.

On Extraterrestrials and the Bible's Account of Creation:
Wallis and others argue that the Bible itself may contain evidence of extraterrestrial contact, but this knowledge was suppressed or reinterpreted over time:

"If I am right that many of the Elohim and Yahweh stories are stories of ET contact, if I am right that we're in a populated Cosmos for which Christian theology is not yet ready, they fear that the whole edifice of their faith is going to come tumbling down."
"People say Paul you're attacking the Bible—no, I'm not, I'm questioning how it's been translated and interpreted."

"The churches have been still in gaslighting mode with regard to ET contact right up into the present and they are going to get caught with their pants down with everything that's going to happen in 2025."

"If we sit at the feet of our ancestors, if we read the ancient symbols, if we follow the canon of ancient art, if we listen to the narrative of ancestral stories, we don't have to approach 2025 in the dark not knowing who we might be dealing with, not knowing what the conflicting agendas might be. Our ancestors have prepared us for exactly this moment. Meanwhile, the mainstream churches are absolutely failing to grasp the issue."

"Since I published Escaping from Eden, I've been contacted by pastors all around the world who believe in non-human intelligence, who believe in contact with extraterrestrial civilizations, and there are three reasons that pastors believe in aliens."

"Then there are pastors who, in their studies of the ancient Hebrew texts of the Bible, find evidence for extraterrestrial contact there. All my Eden books argue for that—that when we correctly translate the Elohim and Yahweh stories of the Bible, what we have is really accounts of paleo-contact, meaning contact in the beginning."

"That in the deep past, our ancestors knew what ET contact was about."

"If you stand up and say, 'Guys, I think for 2,000 years we've got this wrong and that many of the stories we've thought were God's stories are actually retellings of Mesopotamian stories of sky people,' and that what they called sky people or Tinger or Anunnaki or what today we would call extraterrestrials—if a pastor stands up and says that in his congregation, he's going to split his church in two."

This perspective challenges traditional interpretations of biblical events. Instead of divine encounters, many of these stories might describe ancient human contact with non-human intelligences—a realization that could profoundly reshape theology.

Many religious leaders are unprepared for what’s coming. Some clergy have already accepted the possibility of ET life, but many religious institutions are still in denial or resistance mode. Wallis predicts that 2025 will be a pivotal year in disclosure and that many churches will be caught off guard.
If extraterrestrial civilizations are confirmed, theological narratives will have to evolve. Some will continue to resist, but others may reinterpret biblical stories as historical records of ET encounters rather than purely divine interventions.

The OP’s concerns are well-founded. There has been a systematic effort to control and suppress information about extraterrestrial contact, and much of that control has shifted to private corporations. At the same time, biblical theology is at a crossroads—will mainstream religion adapt to a universe teeming with life, or will it struggle to reconcile this with long-held beliefs?

The next few years could provide answers that will either revolutionize faith or shake it to its core.

[EYR]

[Replying to Ross in post #1]

UFOs and the aliens in them are just Satan and his Second Gang of Fallen Angels messing about tricking humans into believing there is life outside Earth.

About ten miles from where I used to live a dead body was found on a pile of coal in a coal yard. No way could anyone carry a body up a pile of slippery loose coal.
The man had disappeared about 20 miles away two days previously while going to shop on the corner. His face was fixed in terror and he had strange burns with strange ointment on them.
He had undoubtedly been abducted by a UFO.
The Dyatlov Pass incident was probably a UFO attack that mostly failed.
Marie Celeste may have been an abduction.
Flight 19...and so on.
Farmers around the world are used to discovering cows missing or mutilated with all blood removed.
Too many planes, boats and vehicles have been found crewless. Too many people have gone missing while hiking or just walking close to home.
While no doubt a lot of missing people have been murdered and disposed of a number must have been abducted.
When we learn that cow blood and human are closely matched things get interesting.
From perhaps 1000 years after Creation until The Flood 1650 years later Satan and his First Gang of Fallen Angels were admixing human and animal DNA/genes to create various hybrids .The angels were also mating with human women and the babies grew to be the Nephilim giants that built all the megaliths we see ruined today. GOD caused the flood to drown all the evil humans, hybrids and Nephilim.
The Nephilim DNA survived The Flood in Ham's wife and her line began birthing the giants of the Old Testament - Og, Goliath, The Rephaim, etc.
In the last few hundred years Satan has once again started breeding hybrids, cryptids and monsters using abducted humans and animals or tissues and blood harvested from them by his gang in their visible or invisible UFOs.
The abductees and body parts are taken to Satan's laboratories in the moon which is why so many lights and things have been seen up there.
In the last 75 years Satan has gotten more bold and arranged for UFOs with hybrid or fallen angel crews to land at airbases to talk to politicians with a 'universal love' message.
More usually UFOs take ordinary people aboard for examinations or tissue collection or chip implanting and they all exude the 'universal love' message.
The claims that the US possesses downed UFOs with live hybrid crews may be as correct or false - we don't know thanks to the paranoid secrecy laws.
Any downed UFOs will be found to be nothing but an empty shell of some exotic metal we cannot create on Earth.
Any crew member will be a humanoid but missing many of the features and organs needed for a long life on Earth's environment - they are basically kamikaze pilots created in test tubes in the moon laboratories.
Any questions - just ask.

[Ross]

Any questions - just ask.

Where does the Bible or for that matter Jewish or Christian traditional views support the conviction that Satan and the demons are on the moon and are capable in our age of manufacturing real metallic or ceramic space vehicles and placing flesh and blood humanoids in them?

[Ross]

Any downed UFOs will be found to be nothing but an empty shell of some exotic metal we cannot create on Earth.

You believe that the demons of the Bible have factories where they melt and process metals and alloys and mould them, incorporating advanced electronics and anti gravitational systems?

[EYR]

[Replying to Ross in post #34]

not factories. they just visualise a UFO and it materialises right in front of them.

that is why crashed UFOs are nothing but empty shells with no visible means of power.

I wasn't addicted to StarTrek like all you Americans were so I can think outside the telly box.

[Ross]

[Replying to Ross in post #34]

not factories. they just visualise a UFO and it materialises right in front of them.

that is why crashed UFOs are nothing but empty shells with no visible means of power.

I wasn't addicted to StarTrek like all you Americans were so I can think outside the telly box.

Thank you for your reply, it is appreciated.
But you acknowledge crashed UFO craft. This is a physical thing not a vision, a (shell) as you call it.
And you have previously acknowledged beings inside these vehicles.
Please explain further.

For the record, I am not American, I am British.

Are you a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness?

[EYR]

[Replying to Ross in post #36]


that is why crashed UFOs are nothing but empty shells with no visible means of power.
try think this through.

I posted that I am Arian Christian and obviously have a better grasp of Bible than most on heere.

[EYR]

[Replying to Ross in post #36]

The fact you assume I'm a Mormon or JW shows you don't have much grasp of True Christianity.

[EYR]

[Replying to Ross in post #33]

You wrote: Where does the Bible or for that matter Jewish or Christian traditional views support the conviction that Satan and the demons are on the moon and are capable in our age of manufacturing real metallic or ceramic space vehicles and placing flesh and blood humanoids in them?

To learn these facts you need to get a KJV Study Bible and study it and all will become clear.

But I'll give you three waymarks:

Genesis 6:4.
Matthew 4:8
2 Peter 2:4

[Clownboat]

[Replying to Ross in post #36]
I posted that I am Arian Christian and obviously have a better grasp of Bible than most on heere.

You're not really a Christian at all, are you? You're just here to try to give Christians a bad name. Shame on you!