Countless Claims to "Answered" Prayer(s)

[POI]

We have countless claims, from Christians, to God/Jesus answering prayers for healing to human affliction(s). And by 'answered' prayer, I mean God/Jesus states -- (yes, I will grant you this prayer request to remove the human affliction).

For Debate:

1. Does God "answer" any of these prayer requests? If not, why?
2. If so, why does God/Jesus perpetually skip the following afflictions (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, cerebral palsy, dementia, diabetes mellites 1, amputation, muscular dystrophy, hunington's disease, epilepsy, parkinson's disease, paget's disease, motor neuron disease, and so on)?

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...God ain't answering 'yes' to requests to remove myotrophic lateral sclerosis, cerebral palsy, dementia, diabetes mellites 1, amputation, muscular dystrophy, hunington's disease, epilepsy, parkinson's disease, paget's disease, motor neuron disease, and so on. Coincidence?

How do you know i don't have any of those because of prayer?

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Your last point makes me think, does also modern medicine work only, if person has enough faith in it?

The answer to this question is no.

How do you know that? I don't think it can really be proven.

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The guarantee of answered prayer 'whatever you ask in Faith', (even given not granting stuff like removing a mountain into the sea because there is a vinery farm on it) is clearly not answered. The healings that are supposed to happen do not and turn into ludicrous carny shows. ...

I think it could be good to notice, Bible doesn't promise that God will do everything anyone asks.

But, if I would pray that California slides into Pacific Ocean and it would happen, would you be happy, would you believe? I don't believe so.

If I would pray all diseases are healed, would you believe if it would happen? I don't think so.

Would you become righteous then? I don't think so.

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The guarantee of answered prayer 'whatever you ask in Faith', (even given not granting stuff like removing a mountain into the sea because there is a vinery farm on it) is clearly not answered. The healings that are supposed to happen do not and turn into ludicrous carny shows. ...

I think it could be good to notice, Bible doesn't promise that God will do everything anyone asks.

But, if I would pray that California slides into Pacific Ocean and it would happen, would you be happy, would you believe? I don't believe so.

If I would pray all diseases are healed, would you believe if it would happen? I don't think so.

Would you become righteous then? I don't think so.

That's the excuse. The Bible DOES promise to grant anything asked for in Faith. Of course while I concede that God would not destroy California at your bidding, that excuse that God answers all prayers, but sometimes the answer is 'No', is the excuse when the go -to hypothesis is that prayers are not answered and coincidence, overdone claims and misremembering are the reason prayers can be claimed to be answered.

But I'll do the old test. I have a bottle of water on my desk. If you agree to pray for it to turn into wine and it does, I shall agree that you have made the case for God answering payers. But in the past no-one ever does that; instead they make excuses for why they shouldn't try to prove what they know doesn't happen.

[boatsnguitars]

...God ain't answering 'yes' to requests to remove myotrophic lateral sclerosis, cerebral palsy, dementia, diabetes mellites 1, amputation, muscular dystrophy, hunington's disease, epilepsy, parkinson's disease, paget's disease, motor neuron disease, and so on. Coincidence?

How do you know i don't have any of those because of prayer?

Classic religionist "logic." Of course, this "logic" would apply to Satan, Allah, Tree Spirits, or me. Maybe I kept you from having those things. How do you know I don't have domain over those things? You're a religionist, this should make perfect sense to you.

[POI]

...God ain't answering 'yes' to requests to remove myotrophic lateral sclerosis, cerebral palsy, dementia, diabetes mellites 1, amputation, muscular dystrophy, hunington's disease, epilepsy, parkinson's disease, paget's disease, motor neuron disease, and so on. Coincidence?

How do you know i don't have any of those because of prayer?

None of the above are deemed curable, prayer or no prayer.

[POI]

Your last point makes me think, does also modern medicine work only, if person has enough faith in it?

The answer to this question is no.

How do you know that? I don't think it can really be proven.

Yes it can be proven. None of the above are curable, prayer or no prayer.

[Clownboat]

...I'll tell you why I know:

1). My uncle has cerebral palsy and my family, who is religious, has prayed for him countless times. But he still has CP.
2). I work in the medical field and have watched family pray for their loved ones with myotrophic lateral sclerosis, cerebral palsy, dementia, diabetes mellites 1, amputation, muscular dystrophy, hunington's disease, epilepsy, parkinson's disease, paget's disease, motor neuron disease, and so on. And yet, their conditions remain.
3). My best friend's daughter has diabetes 1. Countless people have prayed for her, but she still has diabetes 1 20 years later.
4). I have had an amputation since 2007, due to a necessary passed surgical intervention. My family, and the church my family attends, has prayed for the return of this limb and the limb is still missing.
5). The conditions listed in point 2) above are deemed incurable. God looks to skip conditions which are deemed incurable.
6). In the past, I have asked people in this forum, and others, to pray for the removal of my family and friend's afflictions, and yet they still remain.

Your response is complete nonsense. Of the countless prayer requests submitted, it is quite logical for you to already know that many prayer requests have included the conditions I listed in the OP. So we have to ask ourselves.... Does God consciously skip these afflictions, or maybe, just maybe, there is no such God?

Thanks for the information. I think it is crucial what is prayed. For example, if person prays trinity and not Bible God, why would anyone expect Bible God to answer?

But, the truth is, I don't know enough to tell why things don't go as you expect they should go. Still, I believe things go exactly as told in the Bible, even if you don't get always what you want.

I wish you made reasoned responses in place of informing us about beliefs you place faith in. We know your beliefs and we know why you hold them already.

To make the point more clear. I don't believe that the earth is flat and I'm not interested in hearing what a flat earther 'believes'. Now, if a flat earther had evidence to present, that might be something worth listening to.

[Tcg]

I think it could be good to notice, Bible doesn't promise that God will do everything anyone asks.

The Bible does exactly that:

Mark 11:24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

Of course, believers know this isn't true, so they twist this clear promise into something it doesn't say. Excuse after excuse given to avoid admitting the truth.

But, if I would pray that California slides into Pacific Ocean and it would happen, would you be happy, would you believe? I don't believe so.

Give it a shot. Let's see if God will fulfill the promise from Mark 11:24.

If I would pray all diseases are healed, would you believe if it would happen? I don't think so.

Give it a shot. Let's see if God will fulfill the promise from Mark 11:24.

Would you become righteous then? I don't think so.

What an odd statement which has no relevance to this thread or anything else discussed here.


Tcg

[brunumb]

...clear demonstrations that prayer does not work....

By what I see, prayer works exactly as told in the Bible. If you don't see the answers you want to see, it does not necessary mean prayer doesn't work.

Please explain how we can definitively tell that any outcome is the result of prayer actually working.