All the words and teachings of Jesus?

[Revelations won]

Does the Bible contain all the teachings and words of Jesus Christ ?

Does the Bible give indication or evidence that there are more of his teachings that we do not currently have?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to OneJack in post #10]

Why not just give them both the same correct answer so as to avoid authoring confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33)? If they ask, it's supposed to be given to them. If they seek, they're supposed to find. If they knock, it's supposed to be open to them (Matthew 7:7). And if he knows what's in their human hearts (John 2:25), he shouldn't have to try them.

That’s the word - confusion - one of the deeper trials of the Lord to all. The much coveted prize to maintain in overcoming ‘CONFUSION’ is eternal life and salvation. The Lord has to pack and shake together His sheep to fortify their faith and to purify them as in 24 karat gold.

But if he gave two Christians conflicting answers to the same question, he would be lying to at least one of them [or at least be mistaken in at least one of his answers]. Neither of those is supposed to be the case, is it?

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #10]

Why not just give them both the same correct answer so as to avoid authoring confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33)? If they ask, it's supposed to be given to them. If they seek, they're supposed to find. If they knock, it's supposed to be open to them (Matthew 7:7). And if he knows what's in their human hearts (John 2:25), he shouldn't have to try them.

That’s the word - confusion - one of the deeper trials of the Lord to all. The much coveted prize to maintain in overcoming ‘CONFUSION’ is eternal life and salvation. The Lord has to pack and shake together His sheep to fortify their faith and to purify them as in 24 karat gold.

But if he gave two Christians conflicting answers to the same question, he would be lying to at least one of them [or at least be mistaken in at least one of his answers]. Neither of those is supposed to be the case, is it?

Well, that does not apply to God since God is the culmination and termination of everything. You would not swap your guaranteed salvation and eternal life [that the Lord has given you to maintain until the end] for a simple principle of taking the cudgel to accuse God of lying if you were one of the Christians. What would your soul benefit from accusing God of lying when you pretty well knew that He had already granted you the salvation and eternal life of your soul that you have to maintain until the end by being obedient to the Lord without fail?  Therefore, confusion in this context does not apply to Christians to whom the Lord has proven Himself beyond a reasonable doubt. Christians continue to live for the worship and service of God and to maintain the salvation and eternal life that the Lord gave them in their early years of Christianity, which the Lord tended for them.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to OneJack in post #12]

You would not swap your guaranteed salvation and eternal life [that the Lord has given you to maintain until the end] for a simple principle of taking the cudgel to accuse God of lying if you were one of the Christians.

If the Christians compared notes and found that they had conflicting answers to the same question, they could reasonably conclude that just assuming that God has said something may not be the best way to discern what God says.

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #12]

You would not swap your guaranteed salvation and eternal life [that the Lord has given you to maintain until the end] for a simple principle of taking the cudgel to accuse God of lying if you were one of the Christians.

If the Christians compared notes and found that they had conflicting answers to the same question, they could reasonably conclude that just assuming that God has said something may not be the best way to discern what God says.

Could you please enlighten me further on the bold and colored texts in your quote above?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to OneJack in post #14]

Could you please enlighten me further on the bold and colored texts in your quote above?

Just put it with the text immediately before it and you'll understand it.

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #14]

Could you please enlighten me further on the bold and colored texts in your quote above?

Just put it with the text immediately before it and you'll understand it.

I think we’re not on the same boat with the term, ‘Christians,’ to whom ‘assumption’ does not apply. The Lord God, whose name is Jesus, is their Pastor and Teacher; hence, they know what exactly they’ve heard and learned from Him.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to OneJack in post #16]

I think we’re not on the same boat with the term, ‘Christians,’ to whom ‘assumption’ does not apply. The Lord God, whose name is Jesus, is their Pastor and Teacher; hence, they know what exactly they’ve heard and learned from Him.

This is the "No True Scotsman" argument.

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #16]

I think we’re not on the same boat with the term, ‘Christians,’ to whom ‘assumption’ does not apply. The Lord God, whose name is Jesus, is their Pastor and Teacher; hence, they know what exactly they’ve heard and learned from Him.

This is the "No True Scotsman" argument.

Okay, let’s see if you’re right.

Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman, and he puts sugar on his porridge!"

Person A: "Ah, but no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

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Person A - OneJack: Christians do not assume ‘anything’ regarding what they’ve heard and learned from the Lord Jesus because all the teachings that they put into practice were audibly uttered [to them] by the Lord Jesus, who is their [Christians’] only Pastor and Teacher across all generations.

Person B- Athetotheist :


Now it’s your turn to make that a ‘No True Scotsman’ fallacy.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to OneJack in post #18]

Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman, and he puts sugar on his porridge!"

Person A: "Ah, but no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

Person A: "No Christian will doubt that Jesus has spoken to me."

Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Christian, and Jesus spoke something completely different to him."

Person A: "Ah, but no true Christian will doubt that Jesus has spoken to me."

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #18]

Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman, and he puts sugar on his porridge!"

Person A: "Ah, but no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

Person A: "No Christian will doubt that Jesus has spoken to me."

Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Christian, and Jesus spoke something completely different to him."

Person A: "Ah, but no true Christian will doubt that Jesus has spoken to me."

Let's deal with this with the participation of a Christian.

Person A: "No Christian will doubt that Jesus has spoken to me."
Christian to Person A: Why, what exactly did Jesus speak to you, and how?

Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Christian, and Jesus spoke something completely different to him."
Christian to Person B: Can you tell what that something different the Lord tells him?

Person A: "Ah, but no true Christian will doubt that Jesus has spoken to me."
Christian to Person A: Not unless you tell me what Jesus tells you; it's hard to conclude on your claim and on yourself, too.