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I know from experience that many people without the knowledge of the Bible, in a last-ditch effort to put away things like drugs, alcohol, or some perverse lifestyle, have prayed to God, a God they do not know, and almost instantly they turned their lives around and began to study the Bible, and become a new person.

What I’m describing is one of the most striking and beautiful patterns in Christian experience, and it lines up with something deeply biblical. God will meet people long before they understand Him. In fact, the above is exactly how countless Christians throughout history have come to faith.

Many people in crisis will cry out to a God they barely know, and He will answer. This is one of the clearest demonstrations of his grace. They don’t know theology. They don’t know doctrine. They don’t know the Trinity, and most don’t even know what they’re asking for. But they know they’re at the end of themselves.

And God responds. This is not because their prayer is theologically precise. It’s because God is merciful, and He delights to rescue people who are drowning. Even before someone knows the Bible, the Holy Spirit can convict, draw, awaken, break chains, and create a hunger for truth.

This is not a “new revelation.” It’s God applying the truth of Scripture to a heart that hasn’t read it yet. In other words, the Holy Spirit prepares the heart before the mind catches up.

What usually follows? they turn to the Bible. Those in crisis don’t stay in vague spirituality; they don’t build a religion out of their experience, nor do they follow “any spirit.” What they do seek is the word, then Christ, truth, and holiness.

This is the proof that their experience was genuine. A true encounter with God always leads a person toward Scripture, not away from it.

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OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 02, 2026 9:55 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Jan 02, 2026 9:15 pm
OneJack wrote: Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:34 pm There is only one God, and His name is Immanuel, or Mighty God, or Eternal Father, or Jesus ...
None of those are Almighty God the Creator's name...

ISAIAH 42:5, 8

This is what the true God, Jehovah, says, The Creator of the heavens and the Grand One who stretched them out,+ The One who spread out the earth and its produce, The One who gives breath to the people on it And spirit to those who walk on it: [...] 8 I am Jehovah [YHWH/ Yahweh]. That is my name
VARIOUS TRANSLATIONS

Peshitta Holy Bible Translated
I AM LORD JEHOVAH, and this is My Name ...

Legacy Standard Bible
I am Yahweh, that is My name ...

Holman Christian Standard Bible
I am Yahweh, that is My name...

American Standard Version
I am Jehovah, that is my name ...

Translations
Literal Standard Version
I [am] YHWH, this [is] My Name ....

Young's Literal Translation
I am Jehovah, this is My name ...

Smith's Literal Translation
I Jehovah, this my name ...
To learn more please go to other posts related to ....

GOD, THE DIVINE NAME and ...THE DIVINE PERSONALITY
You’re not the Almighty God to deny those names in His favor, are you?
So you can quote from scripture to establish a truth but I can't?
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jan 03, 2026 8:07 pm
OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 02, 2026 9:55 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Jan 02, 2026 9:15 pm
OneJack wrote: Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:34 pm There is only one God, and His name is Immanuel, or Mighty God, or Eternal Father, or Jesus ...
None of those are Almighty God the Creator's name...

ISAIAH 42:5, 8

This is what the true God, Jehovah, says, The Creator of the heavens and the Grand One who stretched them out,+ The One who spread out the earth and its produce, The One who gives breath to the people on it And spirit to those who walk on it: [...] 8 I am Jehovah [YHWH/ Yahweh]. That is my name
VARIOUS TRANSLATIONS

Peshitta Holy Bible Translated
I AM LORD JEHOVAH, and this is My Name ...

Legacy Standard Bible
I am Yahweh, that is My name ...

Holman Christian Standard Bible
I am Yahweh, that is My name...

American Standard Version
I am Jehovah, that is my name ...

Translations
Literal Standard Version
I [am] YHWH, this [is] My Name ....

Young's Literal Translation
I am Jehovah, this is My name ...

Smith's Literal Translation
I Jehovah, this my name ...
To learn more please go to other posts related to ....

GOD, THE DIVINE NAME and ...THE DIVINE PERSONALITY
You’re not the Almighty God to deny those names in His favor, are you?
So you can quote from scripture to establish a truth but I can't?
I don’t establish truth by the pages of the Bible; the truth comes only from the Living God, whose name is Jesus, to whom we’ve heard and learned the truth about God, salvation, and eternal life.

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OneJack wrote: Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:34 pm There is only one God, and His name is Immanuel, or Mighty God, or Eternal Father, or Jesus (Isa 7:14; 9:6; Matt 1:21).


So you claim, but did you not recommend guidance by scripture?
OneJack wrote: Sat Jan 03, 2026 10:48 pm Just be guided by John 14:10-11; John 17:3; and Matt 11:27 ...
Scriptural guidance is very explicit, Almighty God identified himself as The creator in scripture and is recorded as saying "I am Jehovah (YHWH/Yahweh) that is my name". There is no other name in scripture where He explicitly made such a statement. So surely guidance by scripture dictates we accept that The Creators name is ... JEHOVAH (YHWH) as stated.


SCRIPTURAL GUIDANCE

ISAIAH 42:5, 8

This is what the true God, Jehovah, says, The Creator of the heavens and the Grand One who stretched them out,+ The One who spread out the earth and its produce, The One who gives breath to the people on it And spirit to those who walk on it: [...] 8 I am Jehovah [YHWH/ Yahweh]. That is my name
VARIOUS TRANSLATIONS

Peshitta Holy Bible Translated
I AM LORD JEHOVAH, and this is My Name ...

Legacy Standard Bible
I am Yahweh, that is My name ...

Holman Christian Standard Bible
I am Yahweh, that is My name...

American Standard Version
I am Jehovah, that is my name ...

Translations
Literal Standard Version
I [am] YHWH, this [is] My Name ....

Young's Literal Translation
I am Jehovah, this is My name ...

Smith's Literal Translation
I Jehovah, this my name ...
To learn more please go to other posts related to ....

GOD, THE DIVINE NAME and ...THE DIVINE PERSONALITY
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

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OneJack wrote: Sat Jan 03, 2026 8:12 pm
I don’t establish truth by the pages of the Bible; the truth comes only from the Living God, whose name is Jesus, to whom we’ve heard and learned the truth about God, salvation, and eternal life.
From the 16th century onwards, multiple would be reformists have claimed unique personal revelations from Jesus, resulting in endless theologies including the one that your present debater follows.

The only way to find truth is to examine scripture with unadulterated honesty with an open mind, and an ability to accept correction when it is revealed to us.
Out of the eater came something to eat,
And out of the strong came something sweet.

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Ross wrote: Sun Jan 04, 2026 3:05 pm
OneJack wrote: Sat Jan 03, 2026 8:12 pm
I don’t establish truth by the pages of the Bible; the truth comes only from the Living God, whose name is Jesus, to whom we’ve heard and learned the truth about God, salvation, and eternal life.
From the 16th century onwards, multiple would be reformists have claimed unique personal revelations from Jesus, resulting in endless theologies including the one that your present debater follows.

The only way to find truth is to examine scripture with unadulterated honesty with an open mind, and an ability to accept correction when it is revealed to us.
Amen!

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Jan 04, 2026 11:12 am
OneJack wrote: Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:34 pm There is only one God, and His name is Immanuel, or Mighty God, or Eternal Father, or Jesus (Isa 7:14; 9:6; Matt 1:21).


So you claim, but did you not recommend guidance by scripture?
OneJack wrote: Sat Jan 03, 2026 10:48 pm Just be guided by John 14:10-11; John 17:3; and Matt 11:27 ...
Scriptural guidance is very explicit, Almighty God identified himself as The creator in scripture and is recorded as saying "I am Jehovah (YHWH/Yahweh) that is my name". There is no other name in scripture where He explicitly made such a statement. So surely guidance by scripture dictates we accept that The Creators name is ... JEHOVAH (YHWH) as stated.


SCRIPTURAL GUIDANCE

ISAIAH 42:5, 8

This is what the true God, Jehovah, says, The Creator of the heavens and the Grand One who stretched them out,+ The One who spread out the earth and its produce, The One who gives breath to the people on it And spirit to those who walk on it: [...] 8 I am Jehovah [YHWH/ Yahweh]. That is my name
VARIOUS TRANSLATIONS

Peshitta Holy Bible Translated
I AM LORD JEHOVAH, and this is My Name ...

Legacy Standard Bible
I am Yahweh, that is My name ...

Holman Christian Standard Bible
I am Yahweh, that is My name...

American Standard Version
I am Jehovah, that is my name ...

Translations
Literal Standard Version
I [am] YHWH, this [is] My Name ....

Young's Literal Translation
I am Jehovah, this is My name ...

Smith's Literal Translation
I Jehovah, this my name ...
To learn more please go to other posts related to ....

GOD, THE DIVINE NAME and ...THE DIVINE PERSONALITY
The Almighty God is real and forever living, isn’t He? Have you ever, ever talked to Him (Almighty God), and have you heard Him uttering [to you] Jesus is not my name? If you have not heard from Him yet, the things you’re saying about Him are your opinion on the news items you’ve read from the bible and other religious documentaries.

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Ross wrote: Sun Jan 04, 2026 3:05 pm
OneJack wrote: Sat Jan 03, 2026 8:12 pm
I don’t establish truth by the pages of the Bible; the truth comes only from the Living God, whose name is Jesus, to whom we’ve heard and learned the truth about God, salvation, and eternal life.
From the 16th century onwards, multiple would be reformists have claimed unique personal revelations from Jesus, resulting in endless theologies including the one that your present debater follows.

The only way to find truth is to examine scripture with unadulterated honesty with an open mind, and an ability to accept correction when it is revealed to us.

Who do you think is well-fitted and all-knowing in imposing correction on the falsities and contradictions well-embedded in the pages of the bible? And where do you think the truth about God and the salvation of our souls truly resides?

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OneJack wrote: Sun Jan 04, 2026 7:02 pm
... the things you’re saying about Him are your opinion ...
Did you or did you not say the following? ...

OneJack wrote: Sat Jan 03, 2026 10:48 pm Just be guided by John 14:10-11; John 17:3; and Matt 11:27 ...
OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 02, 2026 5:19 am Take the truth from the Son’s declaration in the bible or call upon Jesus and listen to Him when He responds to your call.
OneJack wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:19 pm Havent you read in John 17:3 that the Son says ...
OneJack wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:58 pmYHWH is also the Father’s name in other language
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Jan 04, 2026 8:10 pm
OneJack wrote: Sun Jan 04, 2026 7:02 pm
... the things you’re saying about Him are your opinion ...
Did you or did you not say the following? ...

OneJack wrote: Sat Jan 03, 2026 10:48 pm Just be guided by John 14:10-11; John 17:3; and Matt 11:27 ...
OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 02, 2026 5:19 am Take the truth from the Son’s declaration in the bible or call upon Jesus and listen to Him when He responds to your call.
OneJack wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:19 pm Havent you read in John 17:3 that the Son says ...
OneJack wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:58 pmYHWH is also the Father’s name in other language
I quoted those narratives as ‘insights’ that will motivate the biblical believers and fanatics to come to and call upon the real and forever living Lord Jesus Christ for their salvation. The Lord is beside them always, though they do not see Him yet.

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OneJack wrote: Sun Jan 04, 2026 9:55 pm
I quoted those narratives as ‘insights’ that will motivate the biblical believers and fanatics to come to and call upon the real and forever living Lord Jesus Christ for their salvation. The Lord is beside them always, though they do not see Him yet.
QUESTION

Why did you use the word "truth" when indicating that it can be found from reading something (to QUOTE YOU) "in the bible"? (see the complete quote below )
OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 02, 2026 5:19 am Take the truth from the Son’s declaration in the bible or call upon Jesus and listen to Him when He responds to your call.
PLEASE EXPLAIN what you meant by "Take the truth from the Son’s declaration in the bible ..."






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OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 01, 2026 8:50 pmI do not deny the scripture, in this context. That verse is right; man was created in God’s image.
OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 01, 2026 8:42 pmI’m not deviating from the Son’s declarations/teachings in the bible.
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

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