The Shortest Way To The Truth

[OneJack]

The Shortest Way To The Truth

There are two important things about knowing God and the way to the salvation of our souls that we have to consider to keep ourselves away from deceptions, to wit:

1. Neither the bible nor John, Luke, Matthew, Paul, and the rest of the apostles is God.

2. Jesus is Immanuel, who is always beside us all the time. He is in a 24/7 watch mode for us who will come to Him and call on Him for the salvation of our souls.

Why do we have to be so obsessed with biblical accounts that we treat them as if they were the only source of truth about God and the salvation of our souls when Jesus is with us always, though we do not see Him yet? He can surely bring us to the truth if we come to Him and call on Him in the right way. Jesus, real and forever living God, is the only way to the truth about God and our salvation.

[JehovahsWitness]

By the way, here is what the Lord taught us with regard to Satan and his devil, to wit:

“Remember, I hold your lives in My hands, and your lives depend on Me. Remember, if before you weren't with Me, demons were already lurking around you to tempt you, and it will double when you're with Me. If there were three demons with you before, it will be more than ten when you're with Me, because they will pull you away to lead you astray. Remember, if I am with you, you are with Me, and all who call upon Me in the right way, I will choose them in the world. I have chosen you to spread My holy word. Go forth and make all nations My servants and disciples, and I bless you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.”


"I am the Pastor, I am the Good Pastor. Remember, no one else will teach you except Me. If you explain to one another, it's only according to your own will, according to your own thoughts. So remember, anyone who stands as a pastor, who stands as a leader of My church, is working iniquity and stealing My place as the Good Pastor. Because you are only human, you who are pastors, you who teach and stand before people, you who work iniquity, you who cast out demons in My name, remember that when I return, many will call out to Me, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we do mighty works and cast out demons in Your name, didn't we heal?' But remember, I will say to them, 'I never knew you, I never recognized you, you who work iniquity, you who cast out demons.' Remember, when you cast out demons, you're taking away the role that belongs to Me. If you encounter someone possessed by a demon, just pray to Me, and I am ready to hear your prayer and will listen to every complaint you whisper to Me, every cry you make, every prayer you offer. I will help you and never abandon you, especially those who are Mine and follow Me.

But they are just words on a computer screen, words are not Almighty God? Further, how can anyone know if that is what the Lord really said (the words you wrote ). Perhaps there are errors in the quote, are you sure the words you wrote there are 100 % accurate?


JW

ps Where are you getting all these quotations from? Do you have a collection written down in book form somewhere or are they memorized from when the spirits spoke audibly to you? Are they still speaking to you or have they ceased communicating at this time?

[OneJack]

I only believe what we’ve heard and learned from Jesus ...

How do you know it was Jesus you and your family were in communication with? Wouldn't anything you heard from "Jesus" have to be verified by the words of the Almighty ?

EXODO 3:13, 15
Pero sinabi ni Moises sa tunay na Diyos: “Kung puntahan ko ang mga Israelita at sabihin kong ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ng Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno,’ at sabihin nila sa akin, ‘Ano ang pangalan niya?’o ano ang isasagot ko sa kanila?” [...] At muling sinabi ng Diyos kay Moises: “Ito ang sasabihin mo sa mga Israelita, ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ni Jehova [YHWH] na Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno, ang Diyos ni Abraham,r ang Diyos ni Isaac,s at ang Diyos ni Jacob.’t Ito ang pangalan ko magpakailanman,u at dapat itong tandaan ng lahat ng henerasyon.

Tell me this, you say you and your family were in communication with spirits for a number of years...

1. Did they EVER claim to be or be representing Almighty God using the Divine Name YHWH "I am Yahweh" some such like expression.

Didn’t say we’re communicating with ‘spirits,’ as you fabricated in your mind. What we’re saying is the Lord Jesus Christ, who shepherded us for approximately 14 years. He told us He is Jesus, who talked to Adam and Eve [in the beginning], Abraham, Jacob, Moses, the prophets [in the OT], and the apostles and disciples [in the NT]. As to the Lord Jesus’ claim, the following are His messages to all nations and tongues [across all ages], to wit:

“All of you who are listening, listen carefully! I am your Lord God. Who are you afraid of? I am the Almighty. Who are you intimidated by? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any calamity if you trust in Me and regard Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you alone will worship and none other, I am the one true God existing in heaven, earth, or universe. I created all things, I gave you life. Where will you go? If not to Me, you have nowhere else to go.”

2. Did He ever encourage you to read the scriptures?

Yes!

[BruceLeiter]

[Replying to OneJack in post #122]

If you have read the Scriptures, @OneJack, do you believe that God inspired them, as Paul in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares,

2Ti 3:16  All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 
2Ti 3:17  that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work (ESV)?

Yes or no? If not, why not? 

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #122]

If you have read the Scriptures, @OneJack, do you believe that God inspired them,

Yes, the Lord God inspired (allowed to be written) the scriptures (His utterances heard by those whom He spoke, lived, and supped) for the people to know that there is really God to whom they can come to [all the time] for their salvation and eternal life.

Note:,Don’t over-magnify the word ‘inspired,’ which the Lord taught us to mean ‘allowed to be written’ and nothing else.

as Paul in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares,

2Ti 3:16  All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 
2Ti 3:17  that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work (ESV)?

Refer to Jesus' definition of scripture in John 5:39-40; Paul’s epistles must not go beyond the Lord’s teachings in this context. The Lord Jesus Himself is all we need for teaching, reproof, correction, and training for righteousness to work effectively in our lives; these things are not the purpose of the bible in our lives.

[Capbook]

[Replying to OneJack in post #122]

If you have read the Scriptures, @OneJack, do you believe that God inspired them,

Yes, the Lord God inspired (allowed to be written) the scriptures (His utterances heard by those whom He spoke, lived, and supped) for the people to know that there is really God to whom they can come to [all the time] for their salvation and eternal life.

Note:,Don’t over-magnify the word ‘inspired,’ which the Lord taught us to mean ‘allowed to be written’ and nothing else.

as Paul in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares,

2Ti 3:16  All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 
2Ti 3:17  that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work (ESV)?

Refer to Jesus' definition of scripture in John 5:39-40; Paul’s epistles must not go beyond the Lord’s teachings in this context. The Lord Jesus Himself is all we need for teaching, reproof, correction, and training for righteousness to work effectively in our lives; these things are not the purpose of the bible in our lives.

OneJack, again you skip my Post#118. Why?

[JehovahsWitness]

2. Did He ever encourage you to read the scriptures?

Yes!

1. Can you please quote the EXACT words he used in this regard.

2. Did he assure you that he would confirm audibly yo you which passages in the bible were 100% accurate, which passages we cannot be sure about and which passages are absolutely incorrect?

[JehovahsWitness]

Didn’t say we’re communicating with ‘spirits,’ as you fabricated in your mind. What we’re saying is the Lord Jesus Christ, who shepherded us for approximately 14 years.

Please clarify ...

Was the "Jesus Christ" that shepherded you for 14 years" visible to you during those 14 years or was he INVISIBLE to you during those 14 years?

[BruceLeiter]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #3]

@JehovahsWitness, Jesus is Immanuel, that is, God with us, because he was prophesied as such in Isaiah 7:14:

Isa 7:14  Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. 

Also, an angel appears to Joseph to announce Jesus' virgin birth, and God-inspired Matthew explains it this way:

Mat 1:20  But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 
Mat 1:21  She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” 
Mat 1:22  All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet: 
Mat 1:23  “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us). 

[OneJack]

Does it mean, that all you are saying are presumptions?
1. Hearing the voice of your Jesus no one live.
2. Don't you state you've experience conversations with your Jesus?

Yours, not mine!

Are the nos. 1 and 2 mine OneJack?

Yes, your words, pe se.

Now, can you confirm that hearing the voice of your Jesus will not cause death anymore like the true Jesus in the Bible?

No one can hear Jesus in His real voice and live; He can be heard through a manifested voice, as accounted for in the bible.

And also can you confirm that no conversation happened in 2011 with your Jesus?

I would be lying if I gave in to your capricious whim, Capbook!

[OneJack]

2. Did He ever encourage you to read the scriptures?

Yes!

1. Can you please quote the EXACT words he used in this regard.

”Kung kayo’y magtitipon [kapag Ako’y wala na] ay magbasa kayo ng mga talata ng biblia, at matapos iyon ay magpahayag ang bawa’t isa ng kani-kaniyang damdamin at pagka-unawa sa mga binasang talata, at walang tatayong Pastor, sinoman sa inyo, sapagka’t Ako lamang ang inyong Mabuting Pastor at Guro.”

2. Did he assure you that he would confirm audibly yo you which passages in the bible were 100% accurate, which passages we cannot be sure about and which passages are absolutely incorrect?

Some wrongly worded verses in the bible were mentioned to us by the Lord; He then corrected them with His true utterances.