Eureka! Muslims begin to reject terrorism!

[carolineislands]

Could hardly believe my eyes:

[mirou]

http://www.sosfemmes.com/english_domest ... istics.htm

http://www.womenonwaves.org/article-115-fr.html


and yes the Muslims are the problem not Islam.

[Goat]

no, there is a difference between muslims and Islam, muslims are not realy following the Islam, they are killing their selves, drinking alcohol, making drugs, rape, and all this is prohebited in Islam, and the periode you are talking about was not just a conquest periode, there were a big developpement in sciences, mathes, physics, astronomy, for the statistics gived about those countries I tell you that muslims todays are not realy following the Islam, not all of course, you don't know what's happening in each household, did you read th Coran and what said the prophet Mohamed (pbuh)? I don't think, please do your research.
In France each day a man kill her wife
Islam denie the sex before marriage, in France each 6 minutes a woman die because of an illegal abortion
about the polygamy, imagin after a war a lot of men die, the polygamylet the country to regenerate, or imagin that a spous can't get a baby, the polygamy let the man to get a child.

Hum.. this seems to start with the logical fallacy of 'No true scotsman'. Then, it seems that 'in France each 6 minutes a woman dies of an illegal abortion' sounds rather extreme, since abortion is legal in France. Please provide a link to your source of information so we can confirm it's veracity.

[McCulloch]

http://www.sosfemmes.com/english_domest ... istics.htm

From that site, "In France, a woman dies of domestic violence every five days."
Mirou's original claim, "In France each day a man kill her wife "

I agree that it is shockingly high, but 5 is not one. Do you know if it is higher or lower in Islamismist countries? Are Islamic honour killings counted in these statistics?

http://www.womenonwaves.org/article-115-fr.html.

An English version of the same article, http://www.womenonwaves.org/article-115-en.html .
I did not see anywhere in the article where it is restricted to France. The claim made on that page is that, "Every 8 minutes a woman dies needlessly as a result of an unsafe illegal abortion." Worldwide. The site is making an argument that abortion should be legal (like it is in France), thus reducing women's mortality, because making abortion illegal does not reduce the number of abortions.

[mirou]

if she didn't sex befor marriage there will be less illegal abortion

http://www.sosfemmes.com/english_domest ... istics.htm:
At least 2.000.000 women are victims of domestic violence in France
400 die each year under the blows of their spouse - that means more than one per day...

[Rathpig]

It should be noted that statistics from many Islamic countries can be terribly unreliable. Any comparison from cherry-picked data will be suspect. That is the nature of totalitarian/authoritarian governments, and unfortunately is not limited the strict authoritarians as we have seen in the U.S. recently.


A secular example of this is the current Chinese gymnast age controversy. Everyone knows the obvious truth; however the official historical record will display the lie. Unless this is strongly countered, 100 years from now the lie will be "truth". Orwell was such a great source for understanding these mechanisms. Control the past and you control reality since reality is merely perception.

[Thought Criminal]

Islam denie the sex before marriage, in France each 6 minutes a woman die because of an illegal abortion

This bit stuck out even in the sea of nonsense you posted.

In France, abortion is legal and safe. If you want to find women dying of illegal abortions, go look in Muslim nations.

TC

[Thought Criminal]

if she didn't sex befor marriage there will be less illegal abortion

http://www.sosfemmes.com/english_domest ... istics.htm:
At least 2.000.000 women are victims of domestic violence in France
400 die each year under the blows of their spouse - that means more than one per day...

If she's on the pill, she can have sex without getting pregnant, regardless of whether she's married. Women who never get pregnant never get abortions. Trust me on this one.

As for domestic violence, Islam explicitly allows men to beat their wives, while France makes it illegal.

TC

[Rathpig]

mirou,

This isn't about France. You obviously know the horrible reality of the Islamic world so you have attempted to turn this around onto another nation. You have therefore admitted you cannot defend Islam.

Why didn't you just admit this rather than trying to make a question defense through misdirection and questionable statistics?

[Pazuzu bin Hanbi]

Because tu quoque is a speciality of muslims during arguments…

[Rathpig]

Because tu quoque is a speciality of muslims during arguments…

This must be taught, or it is the most wide-spread coincidence I have ever seen of an informal fallacy. At some time in every conversation with a Muslim, "you too" becomes the assumed final argument. This is even true when no "you too" exists. They will grasp something close or laughably unrelated.

An example from previous off-site conversation:

I made a point about the forced violence ensuring a lack of female freedom of association in Saudi Arabia. The retort was "women in America are whores". I said, "excuse me", and of course the back tracking began. But there was never a hesitation to make such an outlandish statement which really didn't answer the original inquiry. Though it did imply much.

Nothing is exactly as lulz producing as the primitive nature of the Ummah. Centuries of social retardation can only occur in a religious society.