proofs ( pictures)

[CONVERTED TO ISLAM]

ladies and gentlemen
i told you every thing about quraan and i told you every thing about mohammed but you still disbelievers

so i thought to give you some pictures and see

i think any body have mind will convert and hug islam

so watch these pictures..

this is allah by arabic (this is a tree created by allah)



look at the clouds it is allah by arabic



look at your hand it is allah by arabic



this picture taken in germany it is no god but allah by arabic



this picture from lebanon when you travel to there you can see that rock it is looks like the muslim when he pray
looks like muslims when they put their faces on ground for allah



look at this picture and think about islam please (thanks allah because iam muslim)

[CONVERTED TO ISLAM]

Allah endorses humans owning slaves

Oh come on man can you paste that ayah please ?? that is incorrect dear
it is forbidden in islam

Though Wikipedia is not a scholarly source, the following page is the best and most brief synopsis readily available on Islam and slavery:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_slavery


Not only was slavery historically and culturally an element of Islam, de facto slavery exist today in much of the Islamic world despite judicial mandates making it illegal. Muslim fundamentalist scholars in many cases support human slavery as acceptable under and when following Koranic instruction.

Muhammad captured and held slaves. The Koran accepts slavery as as cultural institution. The strong mandate of not changing or innovating religion and the Koran (Bid'a) means slavery is just as acceptable in Islam today as it was in the alleged time of Muhammad. In fact, acting as Muhammad was reported to act is considered the most holy lifestyle in Islam.

Islam is a slavery religion in more ways than one.

Listen to me dude and keep your eyes open I want you to understand Islam very will

curran (islam) forbids any thing Gradually just like wine (alcohol) it was not forbidden .. they can drink alcohol before that ayah but after that ayah they broke their bottles
also they were ( rich people ) buying a slaves for Service but right this moment it is forbidden to buy anybody ..

[CONVERTED TO ISLAM]

... Islam supports human slavery. That alone makes the religion worthy of disdain.

Islam has a lot of points that, taken alone, would make the religion worthy of disdain. I don't even know what to call it when you add them all up.

This is why I like to stress the concept of Bid'a when discussing Islam. Because the religion specifically forbids change, these negative points become insulated from reform. Of course in reality change does occur, such as with the issue of slavery, but any meaningful change is hampered by Bid'a. Add to this the "Koran is perfect" meme and you have a recipe for the very culture we see in places such as Saudi Arabia and Iran.


Muslims are not all bad, but their religion is all bad. This makes for some tough decisions on the part of the individual. In most cases it becomes someone being a good human in spite of the fact they are a Muslim.

If you still claiming that rise that ayah about human slaves

[CONVERTED TO ISLAM]

....I know that you know the truth but your satan (sheitan) who whispering in your heart will never leave you alone

Geeze - I get the blame for EVERYTHING!

it Is greater than your perceived

[The_Spirit_of_Truth]

Thank you, but we might see such pictures and sings that would correspond to any faith. Every belief has some part and Destiny on our Planet, and you can see the sign of them all in the Nature and anywhere in this world.

[Fallibleone]

Any proof?

[Rathpig]

Listen to me dude and keep your eyes open I want you to understand Islam very will...also they were ( rich people ) buying a slaves for Service but right this moment it is forbidden to buy anybody ..

Listen to me dude, I think it is probable that I understand Islam to a much greater extent than yourself.


Nothing in Islam forbid slavery. Secular law is the only reason that slavery is forbidden in Muslim countries, and fundamentalist Islamic scholarship often stands in opposition to these laws on religious grounds. The Prophet was a slave owner; therefore it is acceptable for a Muslim to own slaves. Bid'a would prevent this from being changed.

If any thing, under Sharia women are de facto slaves to first their male relatives and then their husbands.

Perhaps you should study Islam a bit deeper?

[CONVERTED TO ISLAM]

Listen to me dude and keep your eyes open I want you to understand Islam very will...also they were ( rich people ) buying a slaves for Service but right this moment it is forbidden to buy anybody ..

Listen to me dude, I think it is probable that I understand Islam to a much greater extent than yourself.


Nothing in Islam forbid slavery. Secular law is the only reason that slavery is forbidden in Muslim countries, and fundamentalist Islamic scholarship often stands in opposition to these laws on religious grounds. The Prophet was a slave owner; therefore it is acceptable for a Muslim to own slaves. Bid'a would prevent this from being changed.

If any thing, under Sharia women are de facto slaves to first their male relatives and then their husbands.

Perhaps you should study Islam a bit deeper?

What is your evidence from quran or sunnah ?

[manofstyle]

Listen to me dude and keep your eyes open I want you to understand Islam very will...also they were ( rich people ) buying a slaves for Service but right this moment it is forbidden to buy anybody ..

Listen to me dude, I think it is probable that I understand Islam to a much greater extent than yourself.


Nothing in Islam forbid slavery. Secular law is the only reason that slavery is forbidden in Muslim countries, and fundamentalist Islamic scholarship often stands in opposition to these laws on religious grounds. The Prophet was a slave owner; therefore it is acceptable for a Muslim to own slaves. Bid'a would prevent this from being changed.

If any thing, under Sharia women are de facto slaves to first their male relatives and then their husbands.

Perhaps you should study Islam a bit deeper?

What is your evidence from quran or sunnah ?

I found these here http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran ... /index.htm


"* 4:36 "(Show) kindness unto parents, and unto near kindred, and orphans, and the needy, and unto the neighbour who is of kin (unto you) and the neighbour who is not of kin, and the fellow-traveller and the wayfarer and (the slaves) whom your right hands possess."

* 4:92 "It is not for a believer to kill a believer unless (it be) by mistake. He who hath killed a believer by mistake must set free a believing slave, and pay the blood- money to the family of the slain, unless they remit it as a charity. If he (the victim) be of a people hostile unto you, and he is a believer, then (the penance is) to set free a believing slave."

* 23:5-6 "And who guard their modesty - Save from their wives or the (slaves) that their right hands possess."

* 24:31 "And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or fathers or husbands' fathers, or their sons or their husbands' sons, or their brothers or their brothers' sons or sisters' sons, or their women, or their slaves."

* 24:58 "O ye who believe! Let your slaves, and those of you who have not come to puberty, ask leave of you at three times (before they come into your presence)."

* 33:25-26 "Allah repulsed the disbelievers in their wrath; they gained no good. Allah averted their attack from the believers. Allah is ever Strong, Mighty. And He brought those of the People of the Scripture who supported them down from their strongholds, and cast panic into their hearts. Some ye slew, and ye made captive some.

* 33:50 "O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war."

* 33:55 "It is no sin for them (thy wives) to converse freely) with their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or the sons of their sisters or of their own women, or their slaves."

Does that spell it out for you?? or do you want some pictures??

[carolineislands]

Proof is irrelevant to this particular poster.

[manofstyle]

Proof is irrelevant to this particular poster.

Agreed. I would never consider the quran proof for ANYTHING except to prove a point to someone who already believes it's true.