proofs ( pictures)

[CONVERTED TO ISLAM]

ladies and gentlemen
i told you every thing about quraan and i told you every thing about mohammed but you still disbelievers

so i thought to give you some pictures and see

i think any body have mind will convert and hug islam

so watch these pictures..

this is allah by arabic (this is a tree created by allah)



look at the clouds it is allah by arabic



look at your hand it is allah by arabic



this picture taken in germany it is no god but allah by arabic



this picture from lebanon when you travel to there you can see that rock it is looks like the muslim when he pray
looks like muslims when they put their faces on ground for allah



look at this picture and think about islam please (thanks allah because iam muslim)

[Rathpig]

Of course some people know this as the transmission of memes. It's probably the main reason that the various Abrahamic religions are so dominant.

Though this discussion is probably a bit too serious for this particular thread, the topic of meme transference is about all the depth there is to Islam and Abrahamism in general. The invention of a damnation meme allows the priest class to dominate society. In most pre-Abrahamist cultures the priest class only played a tangential, though often important, role in subservience to the warrior/ruling class. In many of these cultures true "spiritual salvation", in the form of after life rewards, was only available to the warrior class.

Abrahamism changed this into a universal reward for obedience and elevated the priest class into the central social role by merging the warrior/ruling class into a armed servant of the priesthood. The "king" and the ruling class becomes first and foremost answerable to "God" ergo the priesthood. Universal reward strengthens the priesthood by ensuring social loyalty of all members.


1). God-meme as universal perfect creator,
2). Damnation of humanity for imperfection,
3). Salvation through obedience to God (ergo priest class)
4). Punishment, both earthly and divine, for disobedience.


If the system wasn't so destructive it could be admired for it's brilliance at social manipulation. The logical holes are not readily apparent to any semi-literate culture and the meme is universally enforced through violence. Only in the last few centuries have Christians feared damnation by God more than damnation by the priest class, and in the Islamic world the damnation by the priest class remains the major method of meme enforcement.


This complicated social-control system also makes it highly doubtful that an illiterate petty criminal named "Mohammad" invented Islam. "Mohammad" represents the conspiracy of new priest class seeking to gain power in 7th-9th century Arabia. Rebranding the Judeo-Christian meme sequence was a rather simplistic and effective way for this emerging priest class to quickly dominate the culture.

It makes for very interesting socio-historical inquiry. What makes it even more interesting is that you will have relatively educated people who adhere to this rather hollow story without questioning the details.

[OnceConvinced]

( I am not the undertaker )

I don't watch wrestling, but I know who The Undertaker is. I've impressed myself there.

You know, the Undertaker is one amazing wrestler. Whenever he enters an arena all this mist blows up around him. He raises his hands up in the air, rolls his eyes back in his head and all the lights in the arena go out. He even makes things catch on fire by willing it. How does he do that??? Wow, I guess he must be influenced by a djinn!





You know, I'm starting to really enjoy this thread now that I'm not taking it seriously.

[daedalus 2.0]

You know, I'm starting to really enjoy this thread now that I'm not taking it seriously.

That's why I enjoy every thread.

[CONVERTED TO ISLAM]

You are claiming that
please do not collect ayat and fix it togather just write the ayah straightly please it is forbidden to do like that

Forbidden by who?


However, to the actual point:

Since Bid'a (innovation/change) is forbidden by the Koran, and in the Koran Allah endorses humans owning slaves, this is clear "proof" that Islam supports human slavery. That alone makes the religion worthy of disdain.

Why do you follow such a degenerate philosophy?

Allah endorses humans owning slaves

Oh come on man can you paste that ayah please ?? that is incorrect dear
it is forbidden in islam

[CONVERTED TO ISLAM]

( I am not the undertaker )

I don't watch wrestling, but I know who The Undertaker is. I've impressed myself there.

You know, the Undertaker is one amazing wrestler. Whenever he enters an arena all this mist blows up around him. He raises his hands up in the air, rolls his eyes back in his head and all the lights in the arena go out. He even makes things catch on fire by willing it. How does he do that??? Wow, I guess he must be influenced by a djinn!





You know, I'm starting to really enjoy this thread now that I'm not taking it seriously.

And now it is time to rise your grand father

[center]KING KONG[/center]

[center]TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAA[/center]

[OnceConvinced]

And now it is time to rise your grand father

[center]KING KONG[/center]

[center]TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAA[/center]

You know, now that you you mention that, I'd like to know how Peter Jackson managed to get hold of a giant gorilla like King Kong for his movie! I mean how did he do that without Djinns to help him?

Converted To Islam: But OnceConvinced, that Gorilla was not real.

OnceConvinced: But dude, it looked so real. How can someone pull off such a trick? I mean, come on, there were hundreds of people working on that set. Some of the actors even interacted with the Gorillia, you can see that in the film footage!

[Rathpig]

Allah endorses humans owning slaves

Oh come on man can you paste that ayah please ?? that is incorrect dear
it is forbidden in islam

Though Wikipedia is not a scholarly source, the following page is the best and most brief synopsis readily available on Islam and slavery:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_slavery


Not only was slavery historically and culturally an element of Islam, de facto slavery exist today in much of the Islamic world despite judicial mandates making it illegal. Muslim fundamentalist scholars in many cases support human slavery as acceptable under and when following Koranic instruction.

Muhammad captured and held slaves. The Koran accepts slavery as as cultural institution. The strong mandate of not changing or innovating religion and the Koran (Bid'a) means slavery is just as acceptable in Islam today as it was in the alleged time of Muhammad. In fact, acting as Muhammad was reported to act is considered the most holy lifestyle in Islam.

Islam is a slavery religion in more ways than one.

[carolineislands]

....I know that you know the truth but your satan (sheitan) who whispering in your heart will never leave you alone

Geeze - I get the blame for EVERYTHING!

[carolineislands]

... Islam supports human slavery. That alone makes the religion worthy of disdain.

Islam has a lot of points that, taken alone, would make the religion worthy of disdain. I don't even know what to call it when you add them all up.

[Rathpig]

... Islam supports human slavery. That alone makes the religion worthy of disdain.

Islam has a lot of points that, taken alone, would make the religion worthy of disdain. I don't even know what to call it when you add them all up.

This is why I like to stress the concept of Bid'a when discussing Islam. Because the religion specifically forbids change, these negative points become insulated from reform. Of course in reality change does occur, such as with the issue of slavery, but any meaningful change is hampered by Bid'a. Add to this the "Koran is perfect" meme and you have a recipe for the very culture we see in places such as Saudi Arabia and Iran.


Muslims are not all bad, but their religion is all bad. This makes for some tough decisions on the part of the individual. In most cases it becomes someone being a good human in spite of the fact they are a Muslim.