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Jesus is a superior prophet to Mohammed

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The Koran agrees that Jesus was born from a virgin and Mohammed was not

The Koran agrees that Jesus did miracles but makes no mention of any miracles Mohammed did

The Koran agrees that a prophet can never lie. Jesus called Himself Son of God and even God Himself on many occasions and also accepted worship from people.

The Koran agrees that Jesus is the Messiah and Mohammed is not.

So, from this, it must be concluded that Jesus is a superior prophet than Mohammed.

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Haiku Ronin wrote:Okay where in the bible does Jesus claim to be God? you won't find that statement. bible uses cannot be traced back to there original writers.
Matthew 16:20 "Then he warned the disciples that they should tell no one that he was the son of god"
So omitting the truth is pretty much the same as telling a lie. And if a prophet can't lie, then I guess he wasen't a very good one. And if telling a lie is a sin then I guess Jesus wasent without sin.
I'm pretty sure that some of the books in the Bible can be traced back to the original author.[/quote]

In the Jewish culture at the time, the term 'Son of God' was a term that was used for someone who was particularly righteous, and did not mean a literal 'son of god' as is being interpreted by Christians. King David was also the son of God, because he was exaulted by God.
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Haiku Ronin wrote:Okay where in the bible does Jesus claim to be God? you won't find that statement. bible uses cannot be traced back to there original writers.
Matthew 16:20 "Then he warned the disciples that they should tell no one that he was the son of god"
So omitting the truth is pretty much the same as telling a lie. And if a prophet can't lie, then I guess he wasen't a very good one. And if telling a lie is a sin then I guess Jesus wasent without sin.
I'm pretty sure that some of the books in the Bible can be traced back to the original author.[/quote]

They can? Then who wrote the book of Matthew let's figure that out to see if Jesus really said he was the son of God?

Who wrote this?
Matthew 9:9 And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.

Who wrote this? Was it Matthew? If Matthew wrote it then it should read then he Jesus saw me Matthew. NOT he saw a man named matthew...

Your information is wrong because Jesus never claimed to be God nor the Son of God and was neither of the two...So trying to base that your arguement on the point that Jesus said tell no man that he was the son of God is false....If anything he wouldn't be witholding the truth he would be telling the truth he's not the son of God so he didn't lie.
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Mary, Jesus, Zacharia & John in Quran

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Yolande wrote:The Koran agrees that Jesus was born from a virgin and Mohammed was not

The Koran agrees that Jesus did miracles but makes no mention of any miracles Mohammed did

The Koran agrees that a prophet can never lie. Jesus called Himself Son of God and even God Himself on many occasions and also accepted worship from people.

The Koran agrees that Jesus is the Messiah and Mohammed is not.

So, from this, it must be concluded that Jesus is a superior prophet than Mohammed.
Muhammad proclaimed Jesus to be a mere prophet and NOT the son of God, making Jesus a liar, or a false Prophet. Jesus was/is a LOT more than a mere prophet. Muhammad is a false prophet, a liar, thief, mass murderer, rapist, and a pedophile.

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Bag-Of-Hammers wrote: Muhammad is a false prophet, a liar, thief, mass murderer, rapist, and a pedophile.
:shock:

Some pretty brash statements there. Do you have any evidence to support your condemnation of the prophet Mohammad?

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Coyotero wrote:
Bag-Of-Hammers wrote: Muhammad is a false prophet, a liar, thief, mass murderer, rapist, and a pedophile.
:shock:

Some pretty brash statements there. Do you have any evidence to support your condemnation of the prophet Mohammad?
He proclaimed to know otherwise what the NT says about who Jesus is and what happened to him. He plundered cities, killing many. He took the women of plundered cities as sex slaves, and he consumated a marraige to a 9 year old.

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Bag-Of-Hammers wrote:
Coyotero wrote:
Bag-Of-Hammers wrote: Muhammad is a false prophet, a liar, thief, mass murderer, rapist, and a pedophile.
:shock:

Some pretty brash statements there. Do you have any evidence to support your condemnation of the prophet Mohammad?
He proclaimed to know otherwise what the NT says about who Jesus is and what happened to him. He plundered cities, killing many. He took the women of plundered cities as sex slaves, and he consumated a marraige to a 9 year old.
Once again mere statements do you have any EVIDENCE? Or dnt you know what that is?
it is historically proven that The Prophet Muhammad could not read not write he was illiterate. In the Quran from surah 3:35 - 3:47 it describes the story of Zakariya and the birth of Mary, Yahya (John the baptist in the bible) and then onto the birth of Jesus. The quran says 3:44 (Y. Ali) This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Messenger.) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point).
Again I point to the fact that the prophet could not read nor write so how would he know such information about things which occured before his time?
Bag-Of-Hammers wrote:He plundered cities, killing many.
The prophet killed people during war which many times the muslims were oppressed.
Bag-Of-Hammers wrote:He took the women of plundered cities as sex slaves
Where's the proof?
Bag-Of-Hammers wrote:and he consumated a marraige to a 9 year old.
[/quote] Do you know what consumate means?
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muhammad rasullah wrote:
Bag-Of-Hammers wrote:
Coyotero wrote:
Bag-Of-Hammers wrote: Muhammad is a false prophet, a liar, thief, mass murderer, rapist, and a pedophile.
:shock:

Some pretty brash statements there. Do you have any evidence to support your condemnation of the prophet Mohammad?
He proclaimed to know otherwise what the NT says about who Jesus is and what happened to him. He plundered cities, killing many. He took the women of plundered cities as sex slaves, and he consumated a marraige to a 9 year old.
Once again mere statements do you have any EVIDENCE? Or dnt you know what that is?
it is historically proven that The Prophet Muhammad could not read not write he was illiterate. In the Quran from surah 3:35 - 3:47 it describes the story of Zakariya and the birth of Mary, Yahya (John the baptist in the bible) and then onto the birth of Jesus. The quran says 3:44 (Y. Ali) This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Messenger.) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point).
Again I point to the fact that the prophet could not read nor write so how would he know such information about things which occured before his time?
Bag-Of-Hammers wrote:He plundered cities, killing many.
The prophet killed people during war which many times the muslims were oppressed.
Bag-Of-Hammers wrote:He took the women of plundered cities as sex slaves
Where's the proof?
Bag-Of-Hammers wrote:and he consumated a marraige to a 9 year old.
Do you know what consumate means?[/quote]

Muhammad made up the Koran through dictation. Lies and all. By consummated, I mean he had sex with a 9 year old. I find it funny how all you Islammists ask me to supply proof of things I say at every turn while you have the entire internet with endless information at your fingertips, while at the same time you go along with every rediculous, un-researched claim Muhammad conjures up in his uneducated, uninformed little mind. But that is the nature of Islam isn't it? As prisoners of Islam, you go along in fear without any shred of guidance from anything holy.

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Bag-Of-Hammers wrote: Muhammad made up the Koran through dictation. Lies and all. By consummated, I mean he had sex with a 9 year old.
You keep making claims and not supporting them. I could say that Christ did the same thing, but without proof I'm just a dude shooting my mouth off. You've made your claim, now prove it. If you are unable or unwilling to prove it, then I submit that you must respectfully withdraw your false claim.
Bag-Of-Hammers wrote: I find it funny how all you Islammists ask me to supply proof of things I say at every turn while you have the entire internet with endless information at your fingertips, while at the same time you go along with every rediculous, un-researched claim Muhammad conjures up in his uneducated, uninformed little mind.
First of all, I am not a Muslim or connected to Islam in any way. I am pagan. I am challenging you because you are making some very inflammatory remarks without backing them up with a shred of proof or even evidence.

It's not my job to go and search for proof to your (Seemingly) bogus claims. You're the one who anted up, now's the time to put your cards on the table.
Bag-Of-Hammers wrote: But that is the nature of Islam isn't it? As prisoners of Islam, you go along in fear without any shred of guidance from anything holy.
You're new here, so let me give you some advice, if you please: This is a civil debate community. We're all here to debate and espouse our personal views and beliefs. Respectfully.

Making extreme statements without any evidence, or attacking belief systems that are different from one's own, is not what we're here to do here. If you want to do that, I'm sure 4chan would welcome you.

If you'd like to be part of a great community where people of many faiths come together to respectfully challenge each other, to learn about yourself and others, and to grow both mentally and spiritually, then I we'd love to have you.

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Here shows why large numbers of Muslims are streaming to Jesus in Mosambique, because Jesus is alive and Mohammed is not.


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