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THAT was your point? You are in no position to know anything at all about what I might or might not "continually" do.
Your difficulty with my assessment, is your problem. It's probable that the kid picked up what I was putting down. He may be processing it... or not. He may gain some insight... or not. How you leap to conclusions, fill in gaps, develop the characters beyond the concrete information, project, assume, read between the lines, through the lines, everything but the actual lines is not my concern. (e.g. how you think you know something is typical of me with zero actual knowledge.)
Waffle, Waffle. Waffle...... Go and study you may actually learn something.
If you hadn't given such horrible advice I wouldn't of felt the need to respond. I responded out of concern that Lostsoul might still be reading the thread and take your advice which would ADD to his problem, not solve it. I left out your "qualifications" because it had nothing to do with the immediate family dilemma, i.e., his educational status was not part of the problem, nor was it relevant within your advice to tear the family relationships apart, other than perhaps once accomplished they would necessarily be able to provide for themselves.
Your sounding off because people do not agree with you. My advice was sound it allowed for every eventuality. You might want to learn about people and relationships before sounding off. You have a very negative attitude to everything and make matters worse, even on this thread you are still sounding off because you want to be right. Not very good from a person wanting to give out advice.
Furthermore, I did not "assume" he was dishonest, he demonstrated it.
Now your being dishonest. I said there could be reasons why he did not want to so open about his indentity and age. Reality check, no one only Jesus Christ was completely honest. Just as you demonstrate now by pretending not to understand what I actually said about his lads feelings. You are trying to make it a black and white situation omitting grey matter. If you get wound up by little things like this, you should not even be offering advice.
Further, furthermore, your not in a position to know whether they are "not babies" and "shouldn't be treated as such"... maturity has nothing to do with chronological age. What we do know however, is that the girl IS a minor and it is the fathers duty, if not desire to protect her and her future as best he can. The villain you would have the father to be, was not in evidence. Lostsoul relayed that 1) the girl felt her father to be a good guy and 2) that the father discussed his objections with him asking him to stay away from his daughter. That is a small window, but it does not reflect a villain, rather it reflects an involved and concerned father who has a reasonable relationship with his daughter.
If at first you cannot win then try blagging the argument by twisting it around to something else.
If you raise your child correctly then you should be able to trust their own judgement and trust them to live their own lives.
We allowed for all sides in this conversation which was not about whether the father was a villain. It was about two people who loved each other but a Father wanted it all his way and was not prepared for them to see each other. You just want to make this about what you think. It is irrelevant because it is the good of these two people and their future which is the important aspect of this thread.
So stop bringing up things which are irrelevant.
Regarding your comment - that "the word tells us, do not bring your children to anger"[lest they be discouraged] and how that somehow trumps "honor your father and mother" or trumps the verse just prior to your Colossians reference "children obey your parents in all things"... or as you put it "so the word works both ways"... Well, I agree, and you have demonstrated that one can pick and choose scripture to support any position they desire... they can also claim personal revelation, or that they are "leaving it to God" in order to do exactly as they choose (actively or passively) and avoid responsibility for their choices. So what good is it? Why do you ask what God has to say, or what "the word" tells us, if you don't really have to follow it because one verse trumps another and it works both ways?
Wrong again... If your parents told you to go and commit murder, rape and robbery who do you obey? The word says a man and woman shall leave their families and become one flesh and independant of their families shall be a new family. I certainly would not want my Son at home obeying me when he is forty.
So when you know what your talking about in the bible then come back.
Instead of trying to twist everything your own. It is obvious even your knowledge of the bible is twisted to how you want to see things and life. It is not good for you or other people who have to read you. Lighten up a little and live.
If you really believed in following "the word"... the father would have ultimate authority over his daughter (no age limit), including choosing whom she marries... and if she puts up a fuss and disobeys, he can just have her killed... according to "the word".
The Word does not say this, are you a Jew or a Gentile?
You really need to read the bible. All are equal in Christ there is no difference between male and female, jew or gentile. Your behind the times.
Please do regard my questions as rhetorical... given that I do not regard you as a source of wisdom, anything more you would have to say to me would be a waste of your time.
What kind of wisdom writes this at the end.
The truth is your so annoyed that someone actually pulled your arguments apart that you have to try and justify yourself and then run away. Not very matur or wise when in a debate forum. Never mind, I am sure not having your replies will in effect not be of any loss. Probably a blessing by all accounts.
Love Faith.xx
) and even if you don't, explain that you both are searching for the path to light in your life and that you have found yours and that she has found hers and that because they don't differ that much it shouldn't make a difference.
