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Replying to post 7 by Divine Insight]
Not sure what you are claiming here DI.
PHYSICS
a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system.
lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder.
For something to 'decline' into disorder, it has to have been in a state of order before this happened.
You said in the OP;
if the second law of thermodynamics is in force, then the system must necessarily run down over time and eventually become inactive. In other words, no perpetual motion is permitted in a system where Entropy rules.
How does this apply where consciousness is the only actual reality? This is to say, 'things' are finite (hence entropy) but consciousness is eternal.
Thus, if no thing existed, consciousness still has itself to self- reference. The act of self referencing might be the
cause of things arising - things such as this universe - in which consciousness can investigate as 'real' experience. The things need not be permanent (thus entropy) but I fail to see where you get the idea that
consciousness needs entropy in order to 'be conscious, intelligent.'
As you put it;
Therefore any intelligent system cannot be eternal.
This would be true regarding things which are non-permanent - consciousness uses them for the experience and once they are no longer useful to display consciousness through/be experienced and learned from, they are left to decay.
Thus if an intelligent conscious God exists, it cannot be eternal. Or if an eternal "God" exists it cannot be intelligent or conscious.
You are assuming here that GOD is the creation.
You are also assuming that an eternal entity cannot be conscious - which makes no sense, for what is it if it isn't conscious?
It is a thing.
So yes, there are indeed philosophies and theologies that exist which are larger than your theory here.
So this is independent of a materialistic worldview.
Not really. It just assumes that consciousness is material.
It's precisely because Entropy is not dependent on the existence of a material world that makes this proof rock solid.
Love the 'rock solid' pun DI!
The assumption that entropy happens in a non-material world does have merit, because the Astral Plane is reported to contain 'worlds' which are fading...are non permanent - indeed, the only reality which actually exists is consciousness itself, and it determines the shelf life of material and non material universes...
...or as these are often referred to as 'degrees of density' in esoterically circles.
All in all, the idea is that
consciousness is the only REAL that exists. Every
thing is a non permanent object in which consciousness can experience, and is only 'real' because consciousness experiences it.
In relation to the eternal nature of consciousness, the process of creating universes is eternal even that the universes are not.
What you are saying reminds me of
'The Void' which is often spoken of in some circles as 'where consciousness derives', and from that
Indra's Net formed as a metaphor for the interconnected worlds.
As metaphor, The Void represents the connection of two realities which contains neither and thus has no information which can be experienced. In terms of 'before the big bang' which we cannot view, that is a 'Void'.
However, consciousness within a void can still experience itself as information, even that a Void offers none. The Void is also non permanent, even if it was eternal, because it is not
infinite. Consciousness can pass
through it, from one world/universe to another.
