One normal day, Armageddon arrives, and amidst the fireballs and atomic blasts you realise that you don't believe in God.
As an atheist/agnostic, you find yourself standing before God. Apparently, his efforts to appear non-existant had you fooled, and unless you can tell him why not, he is going to send you to Hell.
What would you say to God, if he allowed you a few minutes to sway him?
What would you say to the Almight?
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Salaam Alaikum I am an atheist.CONVERTED TO ISLAM wrote:Alhamdu lillah I am muslimbernee51
Five decades of knowledge seeking. Many many years of contemplative practice and self inquiry.CONVERTED TO ISLAM wrote:what evidence you depend on ?Allah is a myth and Muhammad is a fraud.
Only you can do that for yourself.CONVERTED TO ISLAM wrote: plz prove it
You have to 'do the experiment'.
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"
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"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
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William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
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I was just thinking I need more Allah in my days, less of my heathen nonesense.
If I ever do find myself at the pearly gates, I'm going to be rightiously ticked off, and not just because I was wrong. If I show up in the afterlife and find out there's an all-powerful being with some master plan pulling strings on earth, there's a good chance I'm going to be riding the express train to hell after getting my two cents in. If there does turn out to have been a God, the guy (thing) is a major-league asshole. The plague, the AIDS epidemic,the Holocaust, Rosie O'Donnel, where was God for all of this? If it turns out he was laughing, I'm going to try to hit him.
If I ever do find myself at the pearly gates, I'm going to be rightiously ticked off, and not just because I was wrong. If I show up in the afterlife and find out there's an all-powerful being with some master plan pulling strings on earth, there's a good chance I'm going to be riding the express train to hell after getting my two cents in. If there does turn out to have been a God, the guy (thing) is a major-league asshole. The plague, the AIDS epidemic,the Holocaust, Rosie O'Donnel, where was God for all of this? If it turns out he was laughing, I'm going to try to hit him.
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Re: What would you say to the Almight?
Post #57I would try the Chewbacca defense.Openmind wrote:One normal day, Armageddon arrives, and amidst the fireballs and atomic blasts you realise that you don't believe in God.
As an atheist/agnostic, you find yourself standing before God. Apparently, his efforts to appear non-existant had you fooled, and unless you can tell him why not, he is going to send you to Hell.
What would you say to God, if he allowed you a few minutes to sway him?

Even if that did work (and it always worked for Johnny Cochran), I'd ask either for the nearest elevator to hell, or better yet, to be removed from existence entirely. I would find in both heaven and hell a tyrannical kingdom (hell only being better because it was created to challenge God's absolute power), so I would honestly prefer to be destroyed entirely. We all know this situation will never actually come to pass though.
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Re: What would you say to the Almight?
Post #58Openmind wrote:One normal day, Armageddon arrives, and amidst the fireballs and atomic blasts you realise that you don't believe in God.
As an atheist/agnostic, you find yourself standing before God. Apparently, his efforts to appear non-existant had you fooled, and unless you can tell him why not, he is going to send you to Hell.
What would you say to God, if he allowed you a few minutes to sway him?
Why would I want to sway him? It's not my job to justify myself to him. It's his job to justify himself to me. If he pulls the "I am going to destroy you because you don't love me", then....that just proves my original point, that he is unworthy of worship, and all his crap about how he loves us and forgives us is bullshit. I'd rather burn with the "sinners" than spend all eternity kissing his ass. And the company would be better down there too.
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Re: What would you say to the Almight?
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Please review the Rules. Even in the A Room, all members are to be civil and respectful. Try to say what you need to say without metaphors involving defecation, human or bovine.HelloDollyLlama wrote:If he pulls the "I am going to destroy you because you don't love me", then....that just proves my original point, that he is unworthy of worship, and all his crap about how he loves us and forgives us is bullshit. I'd rather burn with the "sinners" than spend all eternity kissing his ass. And the company would be better down there too.
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Re: What would you say to the Almight?
Post #60Give me a edited break. The whole point of debating religious philosophy is that we're allowed to call bull bull. And that goes double in the A Room: if we can't even call Christianity "bull" in the A Room, where can we do it? Anybody who is worried about getting their little feelings hurt should have stayed the edited out for content out in the first place.
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Please review the Rules. Even in the A Room, all members are to be civil and respectful. Try to say what you need to say without metaphors involving defecation, human or bovine.HelloDollyLlama wrote:If he pulls the "I am going to destroy you because you don't love me", then....that just proves my original point, that he is unworthy of worship, and all his crap about how he loves us and forgives us is bull. I'd rather burn with the "sinners" than spend all eternity kissing his ass. And the company would be better down there too.
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