Can you escape from Heaven?

[daedalus 2.0]

In case it isn't to your liking, in case it was sold as a condo but is really a shack, or maybe you get bored?

Can you escape from Heaven? Once in, are you required to stay forever? No matter what?

[byofrcs]

Who would want to escape from Valhalla ! Eating and drinking and fighting until Ragnarök comes.

Or do we have the Islamic heaven ?. 72 virgins ?. I guess I could get it up for that as long as I had some bacon sandwiches and beer (see heaven # 1).

Or are we doomed to be sycophants for the Christian God ?. Oh Jesus Christ that would be so boring. Give me the drinking, fighting or bonking any day.


ps: For heaven # 1 I'm kind of indifferent how my beer comes as long as it comes.

pps: For heaven # 2 please let them have big tits and at least understand the basics of any typical Unix shell.

ppps: For heaven #3, can I take a rain check ?.

[JoeyKnothead]

Heaven I can deal with, I want to escape religious extremists.

[daedalus 2.0]

Who would want to escape from Valhalla ! Eating and drinking and fighting until Ragnarök comes.

Or do we have the Islamic heaven ?. 72 virgins ?. I guess I could get it up for that as long as I had some bacon sandwiches and beer (see heaven # 1).

Or are we doomed to be sycophants for the Christian God ?. Oh Jesus Christ that would be so boring. Give me the drinking, fighting or bonking any day.


ps: For heaven # 1 I'm kind of indifferent how my beer comes as long as it comes.

pps: For heaven # 2 please let them have big tits and at least understand the basics of any typical Unix shell.

ppps: For heaven #3, can I take a rain check ?.

#1 is classic!
#2 Eventually, those virgins won't be so virginal.... 72? Only? That would only take about 43 days to work through, and then what? And what if you're a woman?

And, what about those poor 72 virgins who get stuck with some a-hole suicide bomber? When does someones heaven become another persons Hell?

#3 becomes absurd. Eternity in eternal bliss? Isn't that we call a lobotomy? Isn't this the abdication of free will? Something God, apparently, thought was the most important thing in the World - more important than the suffering and death of innocent children to preserve - and then he takes it away?

[ken1burton]

This is how it is, and it is a “Like it or Not.�

At Earthly death, You arrive at Heaven’s gate. It is broken down, He opens, and no man shuts it. It also has a very strange power, Call it “ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT�, You will see that as quite apparent.

All who have died before you are already there. There are a lot of people by the gates, Seen in Scripture as Rebekah’s children.

Genesis 24:60 And they blessed Rebekah, and said unto her, Thou art our sister, be thou the mother of thousands of millions, and let thy seed possess the gate of those which hate them.

They are seen in the Book of Revelation as those who came out of “Great Tribulation� which was those who were in hell. They were ASLEEP till they were revived after two days, and raised on the third.

The Bottomless pit is not a hole, it is a SEED like the pit of a peach, So when the Bottomless pit opens, it sprouts. The Smoke is seen in Scripture as their lifting up, and Jesus makes Himself many as the Locust. Or “Together with My Dead Body, shall they arise.�

Nahum 3:15 There shall the fire devour thee; the sword shall cut thee off, it shall eat thee up like the cankerworm: make thyself many as the cankerworm, make thyself many as the locusts.

Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

Now those out of hell have the power to hurt certain people five months, Guess how long their talk with you will be, if you do not wish to be with God in Heaven?

Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

Gee? You can not die? You have to listen for five months of the Love and Mercy of God? That is almost like hell itself. Now that is torment.

What was that saying on the TV, “A Team�, Don’t you just love it when a PLAN comes together?�

Jesus fulfilled what God said He would in the Old Testament Prophecies, and one of them was Daniel 9:24's making an end of sin, and bringing in everlasting righteousness. So we are all saved by grace, and all have the Righteousness of Christ given us. We all get the rewards of Heaven. And there are no other options or places we can go.

God showed Jesus was blinded to some things in Isaiah 42:19/21. So you can forget the need to repent, believe, Etc. The Sheep are the wicked, So the wicked enter the Kingdom prepared for them from the foundation of the world, and it just so happens, that the Lamb is slain from the Foundation of the world. The Goats seen as if not cast off in Zechariah 10:3/6.

The Beginning is a similitude for the day of the Cross, The Old World had no beginning recorded, and the New World which started the day of the Cross, has no end.

Every day God takes Home about 200,000. Some days He sends a Cyclone and takes Home a Million. He has things all ready for us. And those who aborted Babies get them back for the same reason God gave them in the first place, Because He loves the mother.

You can accept the love of God here on earth, or accept it after a nice long chat by Heaven’s gate. Either way, It’s all cut and dried.

And don’t worry too much about the Devil, He is not whom He is believed to be:

Psalms 99:3 Let them praise thy great and terrible name; for it is holy.

Matthew 12:22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.

Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

The Bible is the most beautiful book every inspired, Inspired by a God who hides Himself very well.

Isaiah 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.

This is the end of our earthly world, as we go to our heavenly World:

Psalms 22:27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

Ken

[JoeyKnothead]

"Like it or Not"

Like it or not, that is your take on heaven. There has not been one documented case ever of someone coming back from heaven to tell anyone what it is like.

Your take, and your attitude about it, are what is commonly called religious arrogance. You sure are mighty sure of yourself to dare say "Like it or not, this is heaven". Are you some new prophet? Are you sent to us from heaven to hip us to what it is?

Okay everyone, we gotta write a new book now, we got us another one of them there prophet fellers.

[OnceConvinced]

I wonder if holy spirit filled Christians would agree with Ken's take.

[Greatest I Am]

Our destiny is set at conception. Having a God given, perfect soul and nature, we are all destined for heaven. We have no choice in this matter. God does not lose any of His perfect souls.

To leave heaven one would have to destroy the perfection of God’s universe. Impossible. Who has more power than God. Only man??


Regards
DL

[Greatest I Am]

I wonder if holy spirit filled Christians would agree with Ken's take.

Not likely.

God's universe does not include a hell.
Why would a God who only produces perfect souls need with a hell?
He would not.

Regards
DL

[daedalus 2.0]

I wonder if holy spirit filled Christians would agree with Ken's take.

Not likely.

God's universe does not include a hell.
Why would a God who only produces perfect souls need with a hell?
He would not.

Regards
DL

How do you know God's Universe is perfect, or God is All-Loving? Aren't you simply asserting these things?

Other religionists claim there is proof of Hell in many Holy Books. Is yours the New Age theology? The kinder, gentler Xianity? (And, if you are wrong, what fate awaits you?)

Either way, if you can't escape Heaven, and it is an eternity there - why have us here? What is the purpose for God to create 10 million starving children? What possible lesson are we - the ones who make it for a few more years - going to learn and take back to Heaven?

Are you just going to sit in Heaven and for eternity talk to other souls and say -"yeah, remember when we were alive and free? Ah, good times for some of us..."

And the child who died in the womb would say "Hmmm, I never really experienced that. I wonder why?"

I don't care how many verses people quote out of their favorite book, it simply doesn't make sense. Thank God I'm not a Theist - especially a Religionist.