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History of the human race.

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Is humanity really only six thousand years old?
Out of the eater came something to eat,
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Ross wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:49 pm Is humanity really only six thousand years old?
The universe is around six thousand years old. Scholars simply start at the Bible's reference to Pharaoh Shishak ( 1 Kings 11:40, 14:25), which historians can confidently date to 10th century BC, and use the Bible's thorough genealogies to deduct back to Adam.

I realize scientists say the earth is billions of years old, but Scientology is without merit. Just because Tom cruise is a good actor, does not mean that scientists are telling the truth.

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I'm told Genesis 1:1 can be translated as "in a second beginning." Pagan religions are older like the zodiac suggests so this is just the latest cycle. Also Sam (like Samael) is found worldwide like samurai, sumer, samhein, samoa. Look up the varna necropolis and you can see what looks like the gold you get for studying Torah and the site is older than 6,000 years old.

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Ross wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:49 pm Is humanity really only six thousand years old?
I think it is possible. One reason for me to think it is so is that we don't have any good evidence for longer existence of humans. For example, most development has happened in the last 6000 years. If humans have existed over 200 000 years, we could have had computers 194 000 years ago. We don't have 194 000 year old computers, nor anything else that would show humans have existed much longer than 6000 years.

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Ross wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:49 pm
Is humanity really only six thousand years old?
No.
1213 wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:40 am
One reason for me to think it is so is that we don't have any good evidence for longer existence of humans.
On the contrary, we have ample evidence of human tools and archeology from the Neolithic period, which is older than 6,000 years.
1213 wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:40 am
For example, most development has happened in the last 6000 years.
Sure, it took a long, long time for humans to develop agriculture, tools, writing, and civilization -- all of which were prerequisites for the technological development of the last 6,000 years. To imagine that Stone Age hunters could have just skipped all that and built computers 100,000 years ago is silly.

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historia wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 1:13 pm
Ross wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:49 pm
Is humanity really only six thousand years old?
No.
Ross wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:49 pm Interesting. Does this mean that you reject the genealogy provided in the Bible that indicates this, together with the twenty year study of 16th century Archbishop and professor James Ussher?
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Science says it took humans 195000 years to invent the shovel, but less than two minutes to figure out how to use it.

Science has nearly two centuries under its belt, we shouldn't overly criticize it, its still in its infancy after all.
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Ross wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:49 pm
Does this mean that you reject the genealogy provided in the Bible that indicates this, together with the twenty year study of 16th century Archbishop and professor James Ussher?
Ussher didn't have access to all the historical and scientific evidence we do now, so there is no good reason to accept his chronology.

In keeping with modern historical-critical biblical scholarship, I take the genealogies of Genesis to be a (relatively late) literary construct on the part of the Priestly author of the Pentateuch, which, like much of Genesis, should not be interpreted literally.

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historia wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 1:13 pm Sure, it took a long, long time for humans to develop agriculture, tools, writing, and civilization -- all of which were prerequisites for the technological development of the last 6,000 years. To imagine that Stone Age hunters could have just skipped all that and built computers 100,000 years ago is silly.
Yes, I don't mean that people would go directly to computers, but why didn't the last 6000 years development happen already 194 000 years ago? Inventing simple tools is not something that takes tens of thousands of years.

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historia wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:55 pm
In keeping with modern historical-critical biblical scholarship, I take the genealogies of Genesis to be a (relatively late) literary construct on the part of the Priestly author of the Pentateuch, which, like much of Genesis, should not be interpreted literally.
Whom do you ascribe as the author of the Pentateuch, and what do you mean by "relatively late?"
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