Is PROJECT 2025 really a Christian policy?

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Is PROJECT 2025 really a Christian policy?

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PROJECT 2025

Some people claiming to be Conservative Christians have drawn up a rather startling proposal for major changes in the US, should such people win through to a strong government. It's called PROJECT 2025. I can show their introduction on their website but not much more; but folks have published more details on Wiki. Here we go............................:-

https://www.project2025.org/
PROJECT 2025
It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on Day One of the next conservative Administration.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
Project 2025 envisions widespread changes across the government, particularly economic and social policies and the role of the federal government and its agencies. The plan proposes slashing funding for the Department of Justice (DOJ), dismantling the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS), sharply reducing environmental and climate change regulations to favor fossil fuel production, eliminating the Department of Commerce, and ending the independence of federal agencies such as the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Federal Trade Commission (FTC).[8][9] The blueprint seeks to institute tax cuts,[10] though its writers disagree on the wisdom of protectionism.[11] Project 2025 recommends abolishing the Department of Education, whose programs would be either transferred to other agencies, or terminated.[12][13] Funding for climate research would be cut while the National Institutes of Health (NIH) would be reformed along conservative principles.[14][15] The Project urges government to explicitly reject abortion as health care[16][17] and eliminate the Affordable Care Act's coverage of emergency contraception.[18] The Project seeks to infuse the government with elements of Christianity.[19][20] It proposes criminalizing pornography,[21] removing legal protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity,[21][22] and terminating diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs,[4][22] as well as affirmative action.[23]
Project contributor Jeffrey Clark advises the future president to immediately deploy the military for domestic law enforcement and direct the DOJ to pursue Donald Trump's adversaries by invoking the Insurrection Act of 1807.[24][25] The Project recommends the arrest, detention, and deportation of undocumented immigrants.[26] It promotes capital punishment and the speedy "finality" of such sentences.[27] Project director Paul Dans, explained that Project 2025 is "systematically preparing to march into office and bring a new army, aligned, trained, and essentially weaponized conservatives ready to do battle against the deep state."[28][29] Dans admitted it was "counterintuitive" to recruit so many to join the government to shrink it, but pointed out the need for a future president to "regain control" of the government.[4] Although the project cannot by law promote a specific presidential candidate, many contributors have close ties to Trump and his 2024 campaign.[6][30]

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[Replying to oldbadger in post #1

From what I've read of Christian Nationalism, I believe P25 to be a desperate last-ditch effort to get Jesus to come back now that his return is overdue by any reasonable measurement.
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Athetotheist wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:54 am [Replying to oldbadger in post #1

From what I've read of Christian Nationalism, I believe P25 to be a desperate last-ditch effort to get Jesus to come back now that his return is overdue by any reasonable measurement.
Hello.... Thanks for your post.

Well, the idea that Jesus would have supported the P25 proposals is crazy.... He would have stood up against them most strongly.
.......for those who believe that Jesus was a real person, that is. I certainly do not believe he was more than a man.

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oldbadger wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:00 am PROJECT 2025

Some people claiming to be Conservative Christians have drawn up a rather startling proposal for major changes in the US, should such people win through to a strong government. It's called PROJECT 2025. I can show their introduction on their website but not much more; but folks have published more details on Wiki. Here we go............................:-

https://www.project2025.org/
PROJECT 2025
It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on Day One of the next conservative Administration.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
Project 2025 envisions widespread changes across the government, particularly economic and social policies and the role of the federal government and its agencies. The plan proposes slashing funding for the Department of Justice (DOJ), dismantling the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS), sharply reducing environmental and climate change regulations to favor fossil fuel production, eliminating the Department of Commerce, and ending the independence of federal agencies such as the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Federal Trade Commission (FTC).[8][9] The blueprint seeks to institute tax cuts,[10] though its writers disagree on the wisdom of protectionism.[11] Project 2025 recommends abolishing the Department of Education, whose programs would be either transferred to other agencies, or terminated.[12][13] Funding for climate research would be cut while the National Institutes of Health (NIH) would be reformed along conservative principles.[14][15] The Project urges government to explicitly reject abortion as health care[16][17] and eliminate the Affordable Care Act's coverage of emergency contraception.[18] The Project seeks to infuse the government with elements of Christianity.[19][20] It proposes criminalizing pornography,[21] removing legal protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity,[21][22] and terminating diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs,[4][22] as well as affirmative action.[23]
Project contributor Jeffrey Clark advises the future president to immediately deploy the military for domestic law enforcement and direct the DOJ to pursue Donald Trump's adversaries by invoking the Insurrection Act of 1807.[24][25] The Project recommends the arrest, detention, and deportation of undocumented immigrants.[26] It promotes capital punishment and the speedy "finality" of such sentences.[27] Project director Paul Dans, explained that Project 2025 is "systematically preparing to march into office and bring a new army, aligned, trained, and essentially weaponized conservatives ready to do battle against the deep state."[28][29] Dans admitted it was "counterintuitive" to recruit so many to join the government to shrink it, but pointed out the need for a future president to "regain control" of the government.[4] Although the project cannot by law promote a specific presidential candidate, many contributors have close ties to Trump and his 2024 campaign.[6][30]
There is no doubt massive reforms to our bloated invasive government are needed and Project 2025 is a good start toward real discussions of workable reforms.

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marke wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:34 am
There is no doubt massive reforms to our bloated invasive government are needed and Project 2025 is a good start toward real discussions of workable reforms.
Which parts of Government would you like to do away with?

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oldbadger wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:43 am
marke wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:34 am
There is no doubt massive reforms to our bloated invasive government are needed and Project 2025 is a good start toward real discussions of workable reforms.
Which parts of Government would you like to do away with?
I think eliminating the Dept. of Education should be at the top of the list because it consumes so much money for a service already provided by individual states.

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[Replying to marke in post #6]
I think eliminating the Dept. of Education should be at the top of the list because it consumes so much money for a service already provided by individual states.
"Public education spending in the United States falls short of global benchmarks and lags behind economic growth.....

Federal public education funding is equivalent to 0.51% of total taxpayer income.
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https://educationdata.org/public-educat ... statistics


Rather than cut education funding, a better way to save money would be to eliminate the ability of large corporations to avoid paying taxes.
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Athetotheist wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:13 am [Replying to marke in post #6]
I think eliminating the Dept. of Education should be at the top of the list because it consumes so much money for a service already provided by individual states.
"Public education spending in the United States falls short of global benchmarks and lags behind economic growth.....

Federal public education funding is equivalent to 0.51% of total taxpayer income.
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https://educationdata.org/public-educat ... statistics


Rather than cut education funding, a better way to save money would be to eliminate the ability of large corporations to avoid paying taxes.
A nation cannot keep raising taxes on businesses in order to keep growing a largely inefficient, redundant, and wasteful bloated government.

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[Replying to marke in post #8]
A nation cannot keep raising taxes on businesses in order to keep growing a largely inefficient, redundant, and wasteful bloated government.
But that's just it----taxes on big businesses aren't being raised. The corporate tax rate has been lowered again and again for decades, leaving ordinary working people to bear the extra burden as big businesses get a free pass with those tax cuts, and millions of dollars in government subsidies to boot.

What's being eyed for the chopping block instead? Your Social Security, which is funded by you paying into it and which adds nothing to the national debt.
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Athetotheist wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:56 pm [Replying to marke in post #8]
A nation cannot keep raising taxes on businesses in order to keep growing a largely inefficient, redundant, and wasteful bloated government.
But that's just it----taxes on big businesses aren't being raised. The corporate tax rate has been lowered again and again for decades, leaving ordinary working people to bear the extra burden as big businesses get a free pass with those tax cuts, and millions of dollars in government subsidies to boot.

What's being eyed for the chopping block instead? Your Social Security, which is funded by you paying into it and which adds nothing to the national debt.
Taxes have gone up and down but spending keeps going up. Democrats have had total control of the the DC political branches and have never raised substantial taxes on the rich because they know the 'tax the rich' is just a dishonest talking point designed to fool the uninformed into voting for government funds-wasting big spendering and tax oppressing democrats.

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