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Indeed, that's the term that Paul uses to describe the resurrected body. But the question we need to answer is this:JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:57 am
I'm finding it hard to see how [1 Cor. 15:44-45] can be interpreted as anything but that Christ was raised in a spiritual body.
I've color-coded the terms because, as you can see, Paul is contrasting two root words throughout these verses -- psyche ("soul") and pneuma ("spirit"). In verse 45 he uses those nouns directly, but in verse 44 he uses adjectives derived from those nouns.1 Cor. 15:44-45 wrote:
It is sown a psychikos body; it is raised a pneumatikos body.
If there is a psychikos body, there is also a pneumatikos body.
Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a living psyche;" the last Adam became a life-giving pneuma.
* Do we get the English physical from the Greek psychikos?
psychikos *body
"soul"-body is not going to mean much to the English reader and might not be the best of choices, but since biblical "souls" refers to flesh and blood animals or humans "physical" is a good option.
pneumatikos body.
God and the angels are spoken of as "spirits" Since Jesus spoke of returning to the spirit realm to be with God in whose form he (Jesus) formerly existed, "spirit" body would be clear enough : ie the body type of spirit persons
You're getting ahead of me here. Before we consider what these words might mean in this specific context, my question above was a more general one: What do the words psychikos and pneumatikos mean?
You just went off the tracks!JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:18 am I think that translational decisions should be made on a case by case basis depending on the context.
* Do we get the English physical from the Greek psychikos?
psychikos *body
"soul"-body is not going to mean much to the English reader and might not be the best of choices, but since biblical "souls" refers to flesh and blood animals or humans "physical" is a good option.
The word spirit is used in a wide varieties of ways but ...
pneumatikos body.
God and the angels are spoken of as "spirits" Since Jesus spoke of returning to the spirit realm to be with God in whose form he (Jesus) formerly existed, "spirit" body would be clear enough : ie the body type of spirit persons
While this verse in 1 Peter is interesting, it wasn't written by Paul, and so doesn't directly answer the question of what Paul meant by a "spiritual body," which is the question under consideration. Perhaps we can come back to it later after we first look at what Paul himself has to say on this topic.
