Daniel 7:13-15

[kjw47]

The ancient of days( God) appoints someone like a son of man to a kingship= Jesus. So i believe that statement-someone like a son of man means--a created being was appointed to a kingship. Do you think it means something else?

[RIP]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #1]

It certainly doesn't mean the Son was 'created'.

(Daniel 7:13-14) "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven...And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom...."

It does mean that God the Father is giving to the Son, Jesus Christ, the Kingdom of God to rule over the whole earth at an appointed time.

Rip

[kjw47]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #1]

It certainly doesn't mean the Son was 'created'.

(Daniel 7:13-14) "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven...And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom...."

It does mean that God the Father is giving to the Son, Jesus Christ, the Kingdom of God to rule over the whole earth at an appointed time.

Rip

One like the son of man= acreated being-He tells all he was created at Proverbs 8. He is Gods master worker= the one whom God created all other things through. Jesus is-the FIRSTBORN of all creation-Coll1:15

[Athetotheist]

The ancient of days( God) appoints someone like a son of man to a kingship= Jesus. So i believe that statement-someone like a son of man means--a created being was appointed to a kingship. Do you think it means something else?

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/ar ... ke-son-man

[kjw47]

The ancient of days( God) appoints someone like a son of man to a kingship= Jesus. So i believe that statement-someone like a son of man means--a created being was appointed to a kingship. Do you think it means something else?

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/ar ... ke-son-man

I never open those things.

[Athetotheist]

The ancient of days( God) appoints someone like a son of man to a kingship= Jesus. So i believe that statement-someone like a son of man means--a created being was appointed to a kingship. Do you think it means something else?

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/ar ... ke-son-man

I never open those things.

It contains someone's answer to your question. If you're not going to look at an answer, why ask?

[RIP]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #3]

No. 'one like the Son of man' in (Dan. 7:13) does not prove the Son was created.

And, why do you not give the verses in (Pro. 8) that you say prove the Son was created? Answer: Becaue there are none.

Jesus being the 'First born of all creation' in (Col. 1:15-19) doesn't mean the Son was created.

The Son always existed with the Father eternally as God. The Son was born into the human race at a certain time and became the Man we know as Jesus Christ. The Son as a Man had a beginning. But the Son always existed eternally as God the Son.

(Is. 9:6) "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given"

The Son was not born. The Son was given. The Son as Man was born.

In other words: the Son was never created.

Rip

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to RIP in post #7

(Is. 9:6) "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given"

The Son was not born. The Son was given. The Son as Man was born.

In other words: the Son was never created.

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/ar ... r-to-jesus

[kjw47]

The ancient of days( God) appoints someone like a son of man to a kingship= Jesus. So i believe that statement-someone like a son of man means--a created being was appointed to a kingship. Do you think it means something else?

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/ar ... ke-son-man

I never open those things.

It contains someone's answer to your question. If you're not going to look at an answer, why ask?

I asked for an answer, not ever to be sent in to one of those. Sorry.

[kjw47]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #3]

No. 'one like the Son of man' in (Dan. 7:13) does not prove the Son was created.

And, why do you not give the verses in (Pro. 8) that you say prove the Son was created? Answer: Becaue there are none.

Jesus being the 'First born of all creation' in (Col. 1:15-19) doesn't mean the Son was created.

The Son always existed with the Father eternally as God. The Son was born into the human race at a certain time and became the Man we know as Jesus Christ. The Son as a Man had a beginning. But the Son always existed eternally as God the Son.

(Is. 9:6) "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given"

The Son was not born. The Son was given. The Son as Man was born.

In other words: the Son was never created.

Rip

Fact--The one who was beside God during creation= Gods master worker.( the one whom God created all other things through) He assures all in Prov 8 he was created.
All creation occurred at the beginning, Jesus is the firstborn of those events.