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In Matthew 12, verses 31 - 33, I need clarification please of what exactly is meant by speaking against the Holy Spirit. This has always confused me.

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Rose2020 wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:25 am In Matthew 12, verses 31 - 33, I need clarification please of what exactly is meant by speaking against the Holy Spirit. This has always confused me.

Matthew 12 wrote: 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Also, in Luke:
Luke 12:10 wrote:And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
So the one unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

Sin is the transgression of God's laws, or commandments:

1 John 3:4 wrote:For sin is the transgression of the law.
Now consider the following verse:
Deuteronomy 30:19 wrote:I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
Is "Choose life" a commandment from God, or simply a recommendation that He is pro life?

If "choose life" is a command then choosing death is a sin, and the wages of sin is death.

So let's consider that possibility: Choose Life!

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Jumping to the New Testament, one must choose to believe in Jesus as one's Savior to gain everlasting life. Rejecting Jesus as one's Savior leads to everlasting death. So this is how we choose life or death.

If we choose to not believe in Jesus -- we choose everlasting death.

If we choose to believe in Jesus -- we choose everlasting life.

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Sin has no effect on one's salvation according to John 3:16! It is all about simply making a choice, believing or not believing.

But if we choose to reject Jesus, we are choosing everlasting death, and committing a sin if we were commanded to choose life.

Once one is cast into the lake of fire, which is the second and everlasting death, there is no recovery. That person will never live again.

So in conclusion, there is no forgiveness from the "sin" of choosing death over life.

You blaspheme the Holy Ghost by disobeying His command to choose life. Thus, that particular sin is the "unforgivable sin."

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Rose2020 wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:25 am In Matthew 12, verses 31 - 33, I need clarification please of what exactly is meant by speaking against the Holy Spirit. This has always confused me.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

The spirit is of a different order than the son, and far closer to God. It is essentially an extension of God, or of God's word in this world. So to sin and blasphemy against it is to sin and blasphemy against God. It is the worst thing that we could possibly do and as such is unforgivable. It can not be tolerated or excused either in this world or the next. It is the path to death and always will be, because God's word / spirit is life.

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[Replying to theophile in post #3]

Adding to what Theophile stated:
Matthew 12:31-32 wrote:Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
There is God the Father, God the Son. and God the Holy Ghost (or Holy Spirit). Why is only blasphemy against the Holy Ghost the unpardonable sin?

Blasphemy is defined in The Random House College Dictionary as: The crime of assuming to oneself the rights or qualities of God. We can blaspheme God the Father or God the Son and be forgiven. What is the difference between them and God the Holy Ghost? The Holy Ghost is that third of God presently on earth to aid Christians. We receive this aid after individually believing in Jesus Christ and asking to receive the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit or Comforter was not sent to Christians until Jesus departed the earth. Jesus spoke the following to the apostles shortly after his resurrection:
Acts 1:4-5 wrote:And being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
John 16:7 wrote:Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
Assuming to oneself the rights or qualities of God is exactly what Satan did when he rebelled against God. He attempted to usurp God's authority:
Isaiah 14:12-14 wrote:How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!... For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God... I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
It is also the sin Satan wants us to commit by believing the lie; "Ye shall not surely die." By believing this lie, we assume the one quality of God which we lack, that of eternal life. Thus, we equate ourselves with God.

Consider this. If blasphemy is the crime of assuming to oneself the rights or qualities of God; and believing that one is born with an immortal soul assumes the eternal life quality of God; then are those who believe the immortal soul myth committing blasphemy? It would certainly seem so.

Likewise, we should seek and follow the Holy Ghost's guidance in ruling over the earth. That is why He is here, to comfort and support us.

But if we rebel and do it our way, aren't we blaspheming the Holy Ghost and committing the unpardonable sin?

On the other hand, remember the innocence quality of children in that they cannot commit sin until they understand that the associated act constitutes a sin:
James 4:17 wrote:To him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Therefore, it would not be blasphemous to believe you are immortal like God, if you did not realize that you were committing blasphemy. You were ignorant of the fact that it was a sin. In fact, religious leaders with doctoral degrees teach the immortal soul myth as truth. So up until this time, you have not been committing the unpardonable sin by believing you were born with immortality like God. Until now, you have accepted a misinterpretation as fact.

But now you know! :shock:

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myth-one.com wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:06 pm There is God the Father, God the Son. and God the Holy Ghost (or Holy Spirit). Why is only blasphemy against the Holy Ghost the unpardonable sin?

Blasphemy is defined in The Random House College Dictionary as: The crime of assuming to oneself the rights or qualities of God. We can blaspheme God the Father or God the Son and be forgiven. What is the difference between them and God the Holy Ghost? The Holy Ghost is that third of God presently on earth to aid Christians. We receive this aid after individually believing in Jesus Christ and asking to receive the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit or Comforter was not sent to Christians until Jesus departed the earth. Jesus spoke the following to the apostles shortly after his resurrection
It is called "drawing the line somewhere", which is what God did.

The line is drawn at the Holy Spirit...to the point of no return.

If you want nothing to do with Christianity...either..

1. Don't worry about it either way, as it is nothing but religious mumbo jumbo that doesn't concern you in the slightest bit.

2. Follow #1, but as a parting gift, commit blasphemy against the Holy Spirt and thus ensure your non-entrance into Heaven, which, according to most of you on here, doesn't exist anyway and thus no harm, no foul.

Either way.

About a decade or so ago, there was a "commit blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" challenge on YOUTUBE.

That was where atheists made videos blaspheming the Holy Spirit, with not a care in the world.

Now, from a Christian perspective, they are all a bunch of dead souls walking.

But hey.
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We_Are_VENOM wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:16 pm
About a decade or so ago, there was a "commit blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" challenge on YOUTUBE.

That was where atheists made videos blaspheming the Holy Spirit, with not a care in the world.

Now, from a Christian perspective, they are all a bunch of dead souls walking.

But hey.
Did the YOUTUBE challenge give instructions as to how to blaspheme the Holy Spirit?

Sadly, you are correct about the typical Christian perspective on that. They're wrong.

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myth-one.com wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:51 pm
Did the YOUTUBE challenge give instructions as to how to blaspheme the Holy Spirit?
Youtube it.
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