Christendom inconsistent beliefs #4: Christ, flesh and bones in heaven?

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Christendom inconsistent beliefs #4: Christ, flesh and bones in heaven?

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I believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus. A transformed body in some ways but nevertheless a body of flesh and bones. He could be seen and touched. He was recognizable. I presume his height post-resurrection is his height pre-resurrection.

Do you not believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus in particular and bodily resurrection of others in general?
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There is a very interesting biblical passage that clarifies for us that matter of the appearances of Jesus. Notice:

Acts 10:40?God raised this one up on the third day and allowed him to become manifest, 41?not to all the people, but to witnesses appointed beforehand by God, to us, who ate and drank with him after his rising from the dead. 42?Also, he ordered us to preach to the people and to give a thorough witness that this is the one decreed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.

Can you understand why Jesus most of the time (after being resurrected and before ascended) he remained in his new condition of invisible spiritual being?

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I, personally speaking, would not talk about our beliefs as a "theology". If we have a better understanding of what the Bible teaches about a spe ific issue, we just rectify what we believe (2 Tim. 3:16,17) since we are always students of the Bible ... being so, we will always prove what we believe with the Scriptures.

That was just a note. I'll be out of the forum for some time. Have a good day.

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Mattathias wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:01 pm I believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus. A transformed body in some ways but nevertheless a body of flesh and bones. He could be seen and touched. He was recognizable. I presume his height post-resurrection is his height pre-resurrection.

Do you not believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus in particular and bodily resurrection of others in general?
Jesus was not raised with a physical body.....if he had been, it would be like taking back his sacrifice. We would all still be in our sins. He gave up his human life so that we could live forever as humans on this earth (as was God's purpose in the beginning). Jesus could not have a physical body of flesh and bones in heaven anyway because those things cannot be in heaven. (If flesh and blood cannot inherit God's kingdom in heaven, then flesh and bones cannot either! "Flesh" being the operative word here.)

The majority of mankind who will be resurrected back to standing up on the earth will have a physical bodily resurrection. It is only those who are taken to heaven who will have a spirit body.

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as 1st Corinthians 15:50 says - flesh and blood cannot enter into heaven. No, I do not believe earthly flesh and blood or bones are in heaven or can enter. As long as Jesus was on Earth he maintained his earthly body _ once he ascended he took on his true form.
When it is written we will see him decend as we seen him ascend, that speaking specifically of ascending and descending not how he looks or what his body consists of.
1st John 3:2 tells us we will be as he is - we will see him as he truly is when he returns.

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