And neither one of them remotely impressive:
Trump lost more fortunes than he's gained and Hillary made Senator and failed at being Secretary of State-that must be some kind of record...
Is it possible that the bar is now so low that Americans will ignore the increasingly useless parties and elect an independent out of ennui?
INDECISION 2016, who will defeat Hillary for the Presidency.
It is the Republican's turn.
Hilary a criminal and Trump a racist
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Re: Hilary a criminal and Trump a racist
Post #2Willum wrote: And neither one of them remotely impressive:
Trump lost more fortunes than he's gained and Hillary made Senator and failed at being Secretary of State-that must be some kind of record...
Is it possible that the bar is now so low that Americans will ignore the increasingly useless parties and elect an independent out of ennui?
INDECISION 2016, who will defeat Hillary for the Presidency.
It is the Republican's turn.
How can the Republicans control a nation, when they can't control one man?
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It could be that we are about to witness the downfall of America. After all, no nation on earth has ever remained in power continually. All nations fall, it may well be time for the USA to fall.
I believe that if Trump becomes President the USA will crash and burn almost instantly. It will certainly no longer be what the USA used to stand for.
If Hillary gets in not much will have changed. All throughout history many presidents were less than perfect. The fact that Hillary "cheats" (is basically a criminal) wouldn't necessarily cause the USA to crash and burn. She could still do a fairly decent job of keeping the USA powerful whilst she continues to get filthy rich from crooked political deals. That really wouldn't but much different from what ALWAYS goes on anyway.
So between Hillary and Trump, Hillary is definitely the best thing for the USA by far.
But I agree, it would be nice to have someone honest as a president. I personally think Obama was pretty darn honest. He even tried to work with the republicans. Although that's was his greatest downfall, IMHO.
Bernie Sanders might make a good president too, but will he actually get that far? It certainly doesn't appear that way currently. But who knows what the future will bring? A LOT can happen between now and November.
I believe that if Trump becomes President the USA will crash and burn almost instantly. It will certainly no longer be what the USA used to stand for.
If Hillary gets in not much will have changed. All throughout history many presidents were less than perfect. The fact that Hillary "cheats" (is basically a criminal) wouldn't necessarily cause the USA to crash and burn. She could still do a fairly decent job of keeping the USA powerful whilst she continues to get filthy rich from crooked political deals. That really wouldn't but much different from what ALWAYS goes on anyway.
So between Hillary and Trump, Hillary is definitely the best thing for the USA by far.
But I agree, it would be nice to have someone honest as a president. I personally think Obama was pretty darn honest. He even tried to work with the republicans. Although that's was his greatest downfall, IMHO.
Bernie Sanders might make a good president too, but will he actually get that far? It certainly doesn't appear that way currently. But who knows what the future will bring? A LOT can happen between now and November.
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Bernie is simply "divide and conquer" assuring the dems don't win. Hillary couldn't win 8 years ago, she's eight years older, and demonstrated incompetent. (Benghazi).
Which means, Trump wins by default, unless a third party can do it... which is seeming possible.
Bernie is simply "divide and conquer" assuring the dems don't win. Hillary couldn't win 8 years ago, she's eight years older, and demonstrated incompetent. (Benghazi).
Which means, Trump wins by default, unless a third party can do it... which is seeming possible.
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It really embarrasses me that I have always been a Republican!Divine Insight wrote: It could be that we are about to witness the downfall of America. After all, no nation on earth has ever remained in power continually. All nations fall, it may well be time for the USA to fall.
I believe that if Trump becomes President the USA will crash and burn almost instantly. It will certainly no longer be what the USA used to stand for.
If Hillary gets in not much will have changed. All throughout history many presidents were less than perfect. The fact that Hillary "cheats" (is basically a criminal) wouldn't necessarily cause the USA to crash and burn. She could still do a fairly decent job of keeping the USA powerful whilst she continues to get filthy rich from crooked political deals. That really wouldn't but much different from what ALWAYS goes on anyway.
So between Hillary and Trump, Hillary is definitely the best thing for the USA by far.
But I agree, it would be nice to have someone honest as a president. I personally think Obama was pretty darn honest. He even tried to work with the republicans. Although that's was his greatest downfall, IMHO.
Bernie Sanders might make a good president too, but will he actually get that far? It certainly doesn't appear that way currently. But who knows what the future will bring? A LOT can happen between now and November.
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Now, the United States is already suffering from a clown becoming the Republican candidate.
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I think our only real hope is that Ryan takes back the lawmaking powers and forces those in the house to do their jobs. I would prefer a shrinking of government, but just having lawmakers make the laws and be held accountable for them would be great.
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Re: Hilary a criminal and Trump a racist
Post #7Willum wrote: And neither one of them remotely impressive:
Trump lost more fortunes than he's gained and Hillary made Senator and failed at being Secretary of State-that must be some kind of record...
Is it possible that the bar is now so low that Americans will ignore the increasingly useless parties and elect an independent out of ennui?
INDECISION 2016, who will defeat Hillary for the Presidency.
It is the Republican's turn.
Either present evidence of whatever crime Hilary Clinton has been convicted of, or retract your accusation.
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Re: Hilary a criminal and Trump a racist
Post #8And what evidence is there that Trump is racist?Strider324 wrote:Willum wrote: And neither one of them remotely impressive:
Trump lost more fortunes than he's gained and Hillary made Senator and failed at being Secretary of State-that must be some kind of record...
Is it possible that the bar is now so low that Americans will ignore the increasingly useless parties and elect an independent out of ennui?
INDECISION 2016, who will defeat Hillary for the Presidency.
It is the Republican's turn.
Either present evidence of whatever crime Hilary Clinton has been convicted of, or retract your accusation.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Re: Hilary a criminal and Trump a racist
Post #10"I think the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control."Wootah wrote:And what evidence is there that Trump is racist?Strider324 wrote:Willum wrote: And neither one of them remotely impressive:
Trump lost more fortunes than he's gained and Hillary made Senator and failed at being Secretary of State-that must be some kind of record...
Is it possible that the bar is now so low that Americans will ignore the increasingly useless parties and elect an independent out of ennui?
INDECISION 2016, who will defeat Hillary for the Presidency.
It is the Republican's turn.
Either present evidence of whatever crime Hilary Clinton has been convicted of, or retract your accusation.
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Do you really want to go there? How much time do you have?
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