Donald Trump an unamerican platform.

[DanieltheDragon]

Donald Trump has perhaps the most unamerican platform.

1. deporting of naturalized citizens
2. closing of religious institutions
3. registration of religous groups coupled with special identification


is Trump's policies unamerican or unconstitutional?

is Trump's positions defensible?

[WinePusher]

Donald Trump has perhaps the most unamerican platform.

1. deporting of naturalized citizens
2. closing of religious institutions
3. registration of religous groups coupled with special identification


is Trump's policies unamerican or unconstitutional?

is Trump's positions defensible?

These are overtly dangerous and insane policies, but I am still inclined to vote for him.

If he had a chance of actually implementing any of these initiatives then I would NOT vote for him, but there are too many checks and balances in the American system that will prevent him from deporting citizens or closing down mosques.

Now, I'm inclined to vote for him simply because of the entertainment factor. As I wrote in another thread:

Trump's candidacy and his potential presidency can be seen as a huge political experiment. The question we're trying to answer: What happens to a country when you make a crazy, unruly reality TV star billionaire the president? Despite all the ethical problems, I'm willing to approve this experiment for the next four years.

Nothing will change if Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, Rubio or Bush are elected, and plus the next four years will be incredibly BORING. Trump is crazy, but harmless given the way our system is constructed. It will be a very entertaining next four years.

[Goat]

Donald Trump has perhaps the most unamerican platform.

1. deporting of naturalized citizens
2. closing of religious institutions
3. registration of religous groups coupled with special identification


is Trump's policies unamerican or unconstitutional?

is Trump's positions defensible?

It's very facist. As for registration of religious groups with special identification, I
have personal reasons to be very much against it.

[Danmark]

Donald Trump has perhaps the most unamerican platform.

1. deporting of naturalized citizens
2. closing of religious institutions
3. registration of religous groups coupled with special identification


is Trump's policies unamerican or unconstitutional?

is Trump's positions defensible?

It's very facist. As for registration of religious groups with special identification, I
have personal reasons to be very much against it.

I agree with this. It is not uncommon to have a public expound these fascist, unAmerican thoughts, but what is frightening is that close to one third of Republicans support this kind of demagogue. The irony is that no matter what political party one associates with, it seems the louder people promote their "patriotism" or "American values," the more likely they are to misunderstand the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights in particular.

[DanieltheDragon]

[Replying to post 2 by WinePusher]

I'll certainly take boring over insane though. I think Trump never actually intended or expected to get this far and he is just going to keep it rolling until he loses. That being said I just don't think the man is capable of managing a country let alone the polarized political atmosphere that we find ourselves in.

The damage he is doing to the Republican Party is bad and it makes it worse if he actually manages to win. Why would anyone take the GOP seriously if we elect Trump?

[Monta]

[Replying to post 2 by WinePusher]

"Nothing will change if Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, Rubio or Bush are elected, and plus the next four years will be incredibly BORING. Trump is crazy, but harmless given the way our system is constructed. It will be a very entertaining next four years."

What I gather of Trump is that he speaks his mind. Perhaps he does not need $$ donations as much as others. Will America be any different? Will America automatically stop all the wars it is in at the moment? In order for that to happen, the whole war-mentality of American people would have to stop. Americans are addicted to war. It makes them feel they are in control, controlling others. So the wars will go on no matter who is in.

[Danmark]

[Replying to post 2 by WinePusher]

"Nothing will change if Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, Rubio or Bush are elected, and plus the next four years will be incredibly BORING. Trump is crazy, but harmless given the way our system is constructed. It will be a very entertaining next four years."

What I gather of Trump is that he speaks his mind. Perhaps he does not need $$ donations as much as others. Will America be any different? Will America automatically stop all the wars it is in at the moment? In order for that to happen, the whole war-mentality of American people would have to stop. Americans are addicted to war. It makes them feel they are in control, controlling others. So the wars will go on no matter who is in.

I certainly wouldn't include Sanders in that. But that is beside the point. Trump has been calling for policies that are clearly unconstitutional. Cruz isn't much better since he refuses to take a stand on those unconstitutional policies. The RNC has recognized and spoken out about it, but do not have the courage of its convictions. Trump not only does not represent conservatism, he represents an appeal to fear that is willing to suspend the Constitution. That 30% or so of Americans support this call for illegal policies in an indictment of Americans. These people are cowards, swept away by their fears and the demagogues who play upon them.

Trump and the GOP candidates in general are shouting about the doom of America and simply making up the lie that America is failing. It isn't. America is strong. If George W. Bush couldn't destroy it, no one can. America and made a great recovery from the tragic polices of the Bush years. Obama gets all the credit. He did exactly what he said he'd do. He's helped the economy recover and he's refused to get us entangled in hopeless wars. I can't think of any logical, factual reason to be unhappy with his administration, so what's left? Racism?

[Haven]

These are overtly dangerous and insane policies, but I am still inclined to vote for him.

If he had a chance of actually implementing any of these initiatives then I would NOT vote for him, but there are too many checks and balances in the American system that will prevent him from deporting citizens or closing down mosques.

Now, I'm inclined to vote for him simply because of the entertainment factor. As I wrote in another thread:

Trump's candidacy and his potential presidency can be seen as a huge political experiment. The question we're trying to answer: What happens to a country when you make a crazy, unruly reality TV star billionaire the president? Despite all the ethical problems, I'm willing to approve this experiment for the next four years.

Nothing will change if Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, Rubio or Bush are elected, and plus the next four years will be incredibly BORING. Trump is crazy, but harmless given the way our system is constructed. It will be a very entertaining next four years.

Boring is better than fascist. Trump may be 'exciting,' but he's exciting for all the wrong reasons (racism, Islamophobia, sexism, and xenophobia). He isn't qualified to be president, and if he's elected it will be a disaster for the country. Someone like Rubio or Bush would be reasonable on the Republican side, while Clinton is the only reasonable Democrat left (is Martin O'Malley still in the race?). Still, there's no reason to ever vote for Trump.

And yes, to answer the OP, his platform is unconstitutional and unamerican.

[Danmark]

Donald Trump has perhaps the most unamerican platform.

1. deporting of naturalized citizens
2. closing of religious institutions
3. registration of religous groups coupled with special identification


is Trump's policies unamerican or unconstitutional?

is Trump's positions defensible?

These are overtly dangerous and insane policies, but I am still inclined to vote for him.

If he had a chance of actually implementing any of these initiatives then I would NOT vote for him, but there are too many checks and balances in the American system that will prevent him from deporting citizens or closing down mosques.
....
Trump is crazy, but harmless given the way our system is constructed. It will be a very entertaining next four years.

He's either a liar or criminally uninformed. He's entertaining in the sense an insane megalomaniac is entertaining... as long as he has no power. As he mugs his distaste and pride he strike poses and facial expressions of Mussolini, thus not only calling for fascist policies, but looking like the poster boy of fascism. The shame of this country is that he has the support of anyone, let alone as the front runner of the GOP. His support by Republicans has discredited that party for years to come. If the RNC had any principles, they'd ban him from all RNC events, if not from the party itself. But their fear of splitting the vote in the general keeps them from doing what they know is right. He will not be nominated and he will never be President, but he will help put a Democrat in the Whitehouse.

[DanieltheDragon]

[Replying to post 7 by Danmark]

I can think of a few things wrong with the Obama presidency

1. The NDAA he signed into law
2. Unconstitutional surveillance practices(revealed by Snowden)
3. Increased drone strikes
4. The infrastructure stimulus bill he signed architected was horribly mismanaged and our infrastructure didn't really improve as a result.
5. Continued opening of Guantonamo bay
6. Obamacare really is just a giant handout to insurance companies
7. Mismanaged issues in the Middle East trying to have his cake and eating it to.

Certainly he is an upgrade over Bush but Bush set such a low bar for a president anyways. The positive thing about Obama is that he was a boring president which I think is a good thing. If you ignore the Fox News squawk box there really is no super crazy bad things he did. I don't really agree with some policy issues but they were inevitable given the congressional majority he had on entering office and after obamacare the republicans were to focused on la la land to actually put forth alternative policy positions.