I was watching 'O Brother Where Art Thou' again recently. What a gem of a movie.
You've seen it or read it, whether you know you have or not.
It's a re-telling of the Odyssey set in the Depression Era South.
It refashions the horrible Cyclops that consumed members of Odysseus' crew as an ACTUAL Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan.
It takes the viewer on a rescue mission inside of a Klan rally, the climax of which promises to be the lynching of a black guitar player and compatriot of the protagonists, all, themselves, escaped off the County Penal Farm.
The first time I watched it, it was a bit off-putting to be laughing in the midst of a something so blatantly evil as a KKK-rally. If anyone here wished to explain to me how I'm misrepresenting the KKK, I'll patiently listen.
One of the funnier bits was of a troop of hooded Klansmen processing around the torchlit field in perfect synchronization. It was impressive to think how the producers must have pulled some group of actors or dancers together and had them able to perform their moves with precision, though having only a klan hood to see out of.
Could I respectfully request one of my credulous brothers or sisters to explain to me what makes that scene funny? What are the comedic elements in that scene?
I'm NOT asking 'Do you find the Klan funny or do you find scenes making LIGHT of what the Klan did funny?' I'm happy to respond 'no' to BOTH of those questions right now.
You can easily find the scene on Youtube. I'm asking 'Why might some consider it funny to see actors in Klan garb performing formation marching and chanting in PERFECT synchronization?'
I am willing to go out on a limb and say that that scene was wonderfully funny and, actually, a POSITIVE indication of our current societal health. Anyone see how?
O Brother, the Ku Klux Klan is funny
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Post #2I don't think the Coen brothers are just doing this for comedic effect. It is humorous to see people who are serious about their rituals marching around like some drill team. If we think about it for a while, these guys had to practice this nonsense for a while to get it all down. They are building up tension. We're all wondering what's going to happen to the Robert Johnson character who has already admitted to selling his soul to the devil.lamar1234 wrote: I was watching 'O Brother Where Art Thou' again recently. What a gem of a movie.
You've seen it or read it, whether you know you have or not.
It's a re-telling of the Odyssey set in the Depression Era South.
It refashions the horrible Cyclops that consumed members of Odysseus' crew as an ACTUAL Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan.
It takes the viewer on a rescue mission inside of a Klan rally, the climax of which promises to be the lynching of a black guitar player and compatriot of the protagonists, all, themselves, escaped off the County Penal Farm.
The first time I watched it, it was a bit off-putting to be laughing in the midst of a something so blatantly evil as a KKK-rally. If anyone here wished to explain to me how I'm misrepresenting the KKK, I'll patiently listen.
One of the funnier bits was of a troop of hooded Klansmen processing around the torchlit field in perfect synchronization. It was impressive to think how the producers must have pulled some group of actors or dancers together and had them able to perform their moves with precision, though having only a klan hood to see out of.
Could I respectfully request one of my credulous brothers or sisters to explain to me what makes that scene funny? What are the comedic elements in that scene?
I'm NOT asking 'Do you find the Klan funny or do you find scenes making LIGHT of what the Klan did funny?' I'm happy to respond 'no' to BOTH of those questions right now.
You can easily find the scene on Youtube. I'm asking 'Why might some consider it funny to see actors in Klan garb performing formation marching and chanting in PERFECT synchronization?'
I am willing to go out on a limb and say that that scene was wonderfully funny and, actually, a POSITIVE indication of our current societal health. Anyone see how?
The three jail birds who are all distracted from their respective quests; wife, money, etc. to save someone who they barely know, but have come to see as their friend. There is something that simultaneously grabs and tugs at one's heart strings and pokes one's funny bone. The humor is almost slapstick with the formation marching, the single eye hole for the Cyclops character, the reverence for the flag touching the ground and being caught inches from his remaining good eye. It shines a light on something of the reality of our history while simultaneously showing how ridiculous it was as well. This is the genius of Coen brothers movies.
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Re: O Brother, the Ku Klux Klan is funny
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Up until recently, science divided humanity into three supposed distinct "races". But since the decoding of the human genome, modern science has conclusively proven that on a biological genetic level, there is no such thing as race. Rather, the idea of race is a cultural construct, a myth that has no basis in evidence or reality.
Perceived differences in populations are caused primarily by climate, diet and reproductive mixing among various populations, along with lesser influences such as famine, war and other violence, human migration and generational cultural indoctrination. But most unfortunately, this hasn't rid our planet of the ugliness, irrationality and often violent results of racism.
The Bible doesn't mention race except in one disputed instance in Zachariah. Many scholars believe this to be a mistranslation of the KJV and that Zachariah 9:6 is referring to a particularly wicked people or culture, rather than race; the Hebrew literally means "an illegitimate one". Suffice it to say, the Bible completely and entirely destroys any foolish notion of racism in the book of Revelation (see below).
If a thousand people from all over the globe were to stand naked side-by-side, one could easily discern that there is no such thing as a Black or White person. Rather, ALL of us are 'people of color', somewhere in-between the two extremes. Can we rationally dispute that certain colors of roses are somehow superior to other roses? And no doubt some of the most beautiful of roses are of mixed coloration. Quite obviously, our Creator enjoys variety.
Revelation 7:9-10: After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands and, crying out with a loud voice, saying, 'salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne and, to the Lamb!'"
And Acts 17:26 says the following: "He made every nation of humans of one (Greek "henos"; meaning one, unity or singularity), to live upon all the face of the earth." Some translate "henos" as 'one blood', but that is not an accurate translation. Rather, we modern humans are a unified population of common ancestry, tracing back through Noah to Adam.
Scientific American: Recent Common Ancestor
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... nly-think/
From Nature: "These analyses suggest that the genealogies of all living humans overlap in remarkable ways in the recent past. In particular, the MRCA of all present-day humans lived just a few thousand years ago in these models. Moreover, among all individuals living more than just a few thousand years earlier than the MRCA, each present-day human has exactly the same set of genealogical ancestors" Nature: Recent Common Ancestor. https://www.nature.com/articles/nature02842
Most Recent Ancestor of Modern Humans Surprisingly Recent
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 122428.htm
From Wikipedia: "The identical ancestors point for Homo sapiens has been the subject of debate. In 2003 Rohde estimated it to be between 5000 and 15,000 years ago. In 2004, Rohde, Olson and Chang showed through simulations that, given the false assumption of random mate choice without geographic barriers, the identical ancestors point for all humans would be surprisingly recent, on the order of 5,000 to 15,000 years ago.
"Ralph and Coop (2013), considering the European population and working from genetics, came to similar conclusions for the recent common ancestry of Europeans. More recently, however, researchers have estimated the European isopoint to be closer to 1000 AD" Wikipedia: Identical Ancestors Point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_ancestors_point
The genealogy of Jesus, who is of mixed ancestry tracing to Adam in Luke, is accurate as far as science knows. This genealogy of Jesus utterly destroys any and every foolish notion of racism. Jesus died for all people, regardless of who are what we are II Corinthians 5:15.
These four links explain why natural selection and materialistic science are not remotely correct:
Unknown to Darwin: Overwhelming Complexity of Living Cells
https://www.esalq.usp.br/lepse/imgs/con ... e-Cell.pdf
Directly Contradicts Darwin: DNA Mutations Not Random
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 121512.htm
Darwinism Does Not Match Modern Evidence
Eternal Creator the Only Rational Explanation
Up until recently, science divided humanity into three supposed distinct "races". But since the decoding of the human genome, modern science has conclusively proven that on a biological genetic level, there is no such thing as race. Rather, the idea of race is a cultural construct, a myth that has no basis in evidence or reality.
Perceived differences in populations are caused primarily by climate, diet and reproductive mixing among various populations, along with lesser influences such as famine, war and other violence, human migration and generational cultural indoctrination. But most unfortunately, this hasn't rid our planet of the ugliness, irrationality and often violent results of racism.
The Bible doesn't mention race except in one disputed instance in Zachariah. Many scholars believe this to be a mistranslation of the KJV and that Zachariah 9:6 is referring to a particularly wicked people or culture, rather than race; the Hebrew literally means "an illegitimate one". Suffice it to say, the Bible completely and entirely destroys any foolish notion of racism in the book of Revelation (see below).
If a thousand people from all over the globe were to stand naked side-by-side, one could easily discern that there is no such thing as a Black or White person. Rather, ALL of us are 'people of color', somewhere in-between the two extremes. Can we rationally dispute that certain colors of roses are somehow superior to other roses? And no doubt some of the most beautiful of roses are of mixed coloration. Quite obviously, our Creator enjoys variety.
Revelation 7:9-10: After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands and, crying out with a loud voice, saying, 'salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne and, to the Lamb!'"
And Acts 17:26 says the following: "He made every nation of humans of one (Greek "henos"; meaning one, unity or singularity), to live upon all the face of the earth." Some translate "henos" as 'one blood', but that is not an accurate translation. Rather, we modern humans are a unified population of common ancestry, tracing back through Noah to Adam.
Scientific American: Recent Common Ancestor
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... nly-think/
From Nature: "These analyses suggest that the genealogies of all living humans overlap in remarkable ways in the recent past. In particular, the MRCA of all present-day humans lived just a few thousand years ago in these models. Moreover, among all individuals living more than just a few thousand years earlier than the MRCA, each present-day human has exactly the same set of genealogical ancestors" Nature: Recent Common Ancestor. https://www.nature.com/articles/nature02842
Most Recent Ancestor of Modern Humans Surprisingly Recent
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 122428.htm
From Wikipedia: "The identical ancestors point for Homo sapiens has been the subject of debate. In 2003 Rohde estimated it to be between 5000 and 15,000 years ago. In 2004, Rohde, Olson and Chang showed through simulations that, given the false assumption of random mate choice without geographic barriers, the identical ancestors point for all humans would be surprisingly recent, on the order of 5,000 to 15,000 years ago.
"Ralph and Coop (2013), considering the European population and working from genetics, came to similar conclusions for the recent common ancestry of Europeans. More recently, however, researchers have estimated the European isopoint to be closer to 1000 AD" Wikipedia: Identical Ancestors Point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_ancestors_point
The genealogy of Jesus, who is of mixed ancestry tracing to Adam in Luke, is accurate as far as science knows. This genealogy of Jesus utterly destroys any and every foolish notion of racism. Jesus died for all people, regardless of who are what we are II Corinthians 5:15.
These four links explain why natural selection and materialistic science are not remotely correct:
Unknown to Darwin: Overwhelming Complexity of Living Cells
https://www.esalq.usp.br/lepse/imgs/con ... e-Cell.pdf
Directly Contradicts Darwin: DNA Mutations Not Random
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 121512.htm
Darwinism Does Not Match Modern Evidence
Eternal Creator the Only Rational Explanation
In Search of the Real Jesus
https://FreedomTracks.com/revolution.html
https://FreedomTracks.com/revolution.html
