Pro Basketball Player Announces he is Gay... AND BLACK!!

[Ooberman]

OK, so it's not really shocking he's black... This is the first time an active professional athlete in a major sport has announced he was gay.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazi ... ile=no#all

Needless to say, now that the Christian Extremists are in decline, the responses are largely positive.


I'm sure there will be pockets of bigots who continue to attack, but the age of institutionalized bigotry towards homosexuals based on religious belief is in decline, thank God, so to speak.


Again, I repeat myself, Gay Rights is not an issue any more. It's done. Gay marriage will happen, gay rights WILL happen, and majority public acceptance WILL happen.

The question is what should we do about the small, vocal and hostile minority who would spread filth and lies in the name of God?

[charles_hamm]

OK, so it's not really shocking he's black... This is the first time an active professional athlete in a major sport has announced he was gay.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazi ... ile=no#all

Needless to say, now that the Christian Extremists are in decline, the responses are largely positive.


I'm sure there will be pockets of bigots who continue to attack, but the age of institutionalized bigotry towards homosexuals based on religious belief is in decline, thank God, so to speak.


Again, I repeat myself, Gay Rights is not an issue any more. It's done. Gay marriage will happen, gay rights WILL happen, and majority public acceptance WILL happen.

The question is what should we do about the small, vocal and hostile minority who would spread filth and lies in the name of God?

"Gay rights", whatever this is, really has nothing to do with this. If he can perform his job better than the guy that would potentially replace him, he will have a job in the NBA. If not, he won't. The fact that he is an athlete does not matter on any other issues dealing with gays.

Gay marriage may happen (and does in some states now), although I doubt that all states will accept it. "Gay Rights" don't exist any more than "Straight Rights". Gays can already do anything other than marriage in all 50 states, unless I missed something here. Remember, majority public acceptance is anything above 50%. If you are saying 50-55% of America will/do accept gay marriage, I agree completely. Anything above that is not going to happen anytime soon in my opinion. Now if you want to say that more than 55% will accept it as being legal I can see that as well. That's different from accepting it as being moral or right.
I'll accept it as being legal. All that means is some group of politicians made another law. It doesn't have anything to do with moral values.

If you could be more specific on what "filth and lies" you believe will be spread than I could provide a response but since I don't know what you are defining these as I'll hold off until you give a definition of what they are.

[bluethread]

There are many people who are conservative and black. That doesn't stop people from spreading lies and filth about them. Could it be that this was orchestrated so that anyone who does see it as anything but wonderful news could be called a racist? Just a thought.

[Ooberman]

There are many people who are conservative and black. That doesn't stop people from spreading lies and filth about them. Could it be that this was orchestrated so that anyone who does see it as anything but wonderful news could be called a racist? Just a thought.

It's not about you.

Are you serious? You think it's an orchestrated attempt to gain something?

So, if you announced you were Christian at work, we woul dhave to assume you are doing an orchestrated event to gain something?

Why can't it be about a guy who wants to feel comfortable with who he is and help others, too?


Are you so cynical that you think this is all political, and has nothing to do with real emotions and issues?

Are you so jaded you can't even see how this might really be a Good thing? Something that might help millions of people?

It's sad that you demonize gay people so much.

Or is it because he's black?

[Ooberman]

OK, so it's not really shocking he's black... This is the first time an active professional athlete in a major sport has announced he was gay.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazi ... ile=no#all

Needless to say, now that the Christian Extremists are in decline, the responses are largely positive.


I'm sure there will be pockets of bigots who continue to attack, but the age of institutionalized bigotry towards homosexuals based on religious belief is in decline, thank God, so to speak.


Again, I repeat myself, Gay Rights is not an issue any more. It's done. Gay marriage will happen, gay rights WILL happen, and majority public acceptance WILL happen.

The question is what should we do about the small, vocal and hostile minority who would spread filth and lies in the name of God?

"Gay rights", whatever this is, really has nothing to do with this. If he can perform his job better than the guy that would potentially replace him, he will have a job in the NBA. If not, he won't. The fact that he is an athlete does not matter on any other issues dealing with gays.

Gay marriage may happen (and does in some states now), although I doubt that all states will accept it. "Gay Rights" don't exist any more than "Straight Rights". Gays can already do anything other than marriage in all 50 states, unless I missed something here. Remember, majority public acceptance is anything above 50%. If you are saying 50-55% of America will/do accept gay marriage, I agree completely. Anything above that is not going to happen anytime soon in my opinion. Now if you want to say that more than 55% will accept it as being legal I can see that as well. That's different from accepting it as being moral or right.
I'll accept it as being legal. All that means is some group of politicians made another law. It doesn't have anything to do with moral values.

If you could be more specific on what "filth and lies" you believe will be spread than I could provide a response but since I don't know what you are defining these as I'll hold off until you give a definition of what they are.

1. I think you are mistaken about it only tipping to 50-55%. Statistics show the younger generation overly accepts the gay lifestyle. The specter of it being a marginalized behavior is over. It's no longer considered "dangerous" or "anti-culture" or even "evil".

2. The filth and lies are in the Bible. The whole idea that homosexuality is ungodly. Who do the writers of the Bible think they are? How dare they opine about things in our culture, in our era. (Translated, How dare do people refer to the writers of the Bible as if it's authoritative and they are trustworthy?) Their era of using God to instill fear, hatred and slavery is over.

Much like racism, homophobia will become the opinion of malcontents and social outcasts.

[Ooberman]

Kevin Boss (an NFL football player):

"Much respect for @jasoncollins34 who has chosen to stand tall in a world filled with ignorance and hate"

Everyone is aware how hateful homophobia is.

It's not too late for many Christians, to be on the side of Love, not Hate. God not Satan.

[bluethread]

There are many people who are conservative and black. That doesn't stop people from spreading lies and filth about them. Could it be that this was orchestrated so that anyone who does see it as anything but wonderful news could be called a racist? Just a thought.

It's not about you.

Are you serious? You think it's an orchestrated attempt to gain something?

Yes, it is not about me. It was you who posted "Gay . . . AND BLACK!!" What, did your caps lock get stuck? Given that emphasis, I just pointed out that spreading filth and lies is not just done in the name of a deity.

The first public announcement that an active professional athlete in a major sport is gay has been in the news for months now. I doubt that the "gay community" had absolutely nothing to do with the timing.

So, if you announced you were Christian at work, we woul dhave to assume you are doing an orchestrated event to gain something?

Why can't it be about a guy who wants to feel comfortable with who he is and help others, too?


Are you so cynical that you think this is all political, and has nothing to do with real emotions and issues?

Are you so jaded you can't even see how this might really be a Good thing? Something that might help millions of people?

It's sad that you demonize gay people so much.

Or is it because he's black?

He was not making an announcement at work, he was making a public announcement to the press, big difference. It is interesting that you refer to me as cynical and jaded, while listing things that one would have to gain by making tjhat announcement. Why is it that politics is not about real emotions and issues unless it is favorable to the liberal viewpoint? Also, how is pointing out that a public announcement to the press might be planned ahead of time demonizing gay people. As I pointed out in the beginning orchestration and demonization cuts both ways. Again, it was you who included "AND BLACK!!" in the OP title. What is up with that?

[WinePusher]

OK, so it's not really shocking he's black... This is the first time an active professional athlete in a major sport has announced he was gay.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazi ... ile=no#all

Needless to say, now that the Christian Extremists are in decline, the responses are largely positive.


I'm sure there will be pockets of bigots who continue to attack, but the age of institutionalized bigotry towards homosexuals based on religious belief is in decline, thank God, so to speak.


Again, I repeat myself, Gay Rights is not an issue any more. It's done. Gay marriage will happen, gay rights WILL happen, and majority public acceptance WILL happen.

The question is what should we do about the small, vocal and hostile minority who would spread filth and lies in the name of God?

Opposing gay marriage is one thing, and being homophobic is another. Homophobia is equivalent to racism and bigotry, but I can't honestly say that all the opposition towards gay marriage is driven by homphobia. I used to oppose gay marriage on secular grounds, and I used to accept the religious dogma that condemned and ostracized the gay lifestyle. Luckily, through a series of events, I've been enlightened and have abandoned those beliefs.

As for your topic, I think it's completely idiotic to compare the current gay marriage equality movement with the former black civil rights movement (as liberals constantly try to do). Gay people are not segregated in any sense of the term. The only thing gay people are fighting for is the right to have the full benefits of marriage extended to them, unlike black people who were fighting for much more serious things, like freedom.

[connermt]

OK, so it's not really shocking he's black... This is the first time an active professional athlete in a major sport has announced he was gay.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazi ... ile=no#all

Needless to say, now that the Christian Extremists are in decline, the responses are largely positive.


I'm sure there will be pockets of bigots who continue to attack, but the age of institutionalized bigotry towards homosexuals based on religious belief is in decline, thank God, so to speak.


Again, I repeat myself, Gay Rights is not an issue any more. It's done. Gay marriage will happen, gay rights WILL happen, and majority public acceptance WILL happen.

The question is what should we do about the small, vocal and hostile minority who would spread filth and lies in the name of God?

Some people still hate blacks and think women are second class citizens. The point is, no matter what or when, there will always be haters (for lack of a better term) out there for everything.
What can we do? Short of physically eliminating them all, just let what those haters say go in one ear and out the other.
Hopefully, they will inbreed enough to significantly lessen their numbers.

[charles_hamm]

OK, so it's not really shocking he's black... This is the first time an active professional athlete in a major sport has announced he was gay.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazi ... ile=no#all

Needless to say, now that the Christian Extremists are in decline, the responses are largely positive.


I'm sure there will be pockets of bigots who continue to attack, but the age of institutionalized bigotry towards homosexuals based on religious belief is in decline, thank God, so to speak.


Again, I repeat myself, Gay Rights is not an issue any more. It's done. Gay marriage will happen, gay rights WILL happen, and majority public acceptance WILL happen.

The question is what should we do about the small, vocal and hostile minority who would spread filth and lies in the name of God?

"Gay rights", whatever this is, really has nothing to do with this. If he can perform his job better than the guy that would potentially replace him, he will have a job in the NBA. If not, he won't. The fact that he is an athlete does not matter on any other issues dealing with gays.

Gay marriage may happen (and does in some states now), although I doubt that all states will accept it. "Gay Rights" don't exist any more than "Straight Rights". Gays can already do anything other than marriage in all 50 states, unless I missed something here. Remember, majority public acceptance is anything above 50%. If you are saying 50-55% of America will/do accept gay marriage, I agree completely. Anything above that is not going to happen anytime soon in my opinion. Now if you want to say that more than 55% will accept it as being legal I can see that as well. That's different from accepting it as being moral or right.
I'll accept it as being legal. All that means is some group of politicians made another law. It doesn't have anything to do with moral values.

If you could be more specific on what "filth and lies" you believe will be spread than I could provide a response but since I don't know what you are defining these as I'll hold off until you give a definition of what they are.

1. I think you are mistaken about it only tipping to 50-55%. Statistics show the younger generation overly accepts the gay lifestyle. The specter of it being a marginalized behavior is over. It's no longer considered "dangerous" or "anti-culture" or even "evil".

I was speaking about right now and the overall population. Among younger adults the numbers are greater in favor of homosexuality. It should not be considered dangerous, anti-culture or evil by Christians. It should be considered a sin of sexual immorality no worse than adultery. If it should become legal in all 50 states then Christians should accept the legality of it and move on. That does not mean we should condone it as an acceptable behavior. As long as we do not break the law, we should be entiltled to our opinions just like any other group in America.

2. The filth and lies are in the Bible. The whole idea that homosexuality is ungodly. Who do the writers of the Bible think they are? How dare they opine about things in our culture, in our era. (Translated, How dare do people refer to the writers of the Bible as if it's authoritative and they are trustworthy?) Their era of using God to instill fear, hatred and slavery is over.

Does this mean that writers of today should not be able to comment on events of the past or the future? They don't live in that time so why should their opinions matter? Should they be considered authoritative or trustworthy? The bottom line is the Bible says homosexuality is a sin. It does not say that homosexuality is worse than adultery or any other sexual however so it should not be treated as such. Is this going to be the era of the liberal biased media using television to install their morals and values on people using the catch words of "tolerance" and "acceptance"?

Much like racism, homophobia will become the opinion of malcontents and social outcasts.

As I understand a phobia it is a fear of something. I have no fear of homosexuality. I believe it is a sin just like adultery and should be called as such. I don't believe in "gay bashing" or purposely getting into a fight with a homosexual. That is not productive and serves no purpose.