Should An Islamic Mosque Be Built At Ground Zero?

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Should An Islamic Mosque Be Built At Ground Zero?

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In New York City, there is a contreversy on whether or not to construct a Mosque near the grounds of the 9/11 attack. This is completly outraegous and infuriating because no one seems to be able to answer the question Why There? Why build a Islamic mosque at the site of a place that was destroyed by Islamic Jihadists? I'm sure there are plently of other land space where a mosque can be built, but why have these Muslims decided to build it so close to Ground Zero? Are they oblivious to the fact that at that area, thousands of americans were killed by Muslim Jihadists?

Should a mosque be built at ground zero?

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Well they were not "Islamic Jihadists" they were "Islamic Extremists" or simply Terrorists
There is a big difference in terminology and i suggest you do some research.

Altough it is completely lawful to build a mosque at "Ground Zero" and it was approved by the community(mostly non-muslim), I personally think the muslims should back off from building a mosque there.
A few of my reasons are:
*Muslims are drawing attention to themselves
*There is no point of angering american citizens
*They can buid a mosque somewhere else where there will be no problem

This is however a very tricky subject, as some of the families of the victims say there is no problem with a mosque being built, and some of the families of the victims vigerously say there should not be a mosque being built.

So my opinion is clear, there is no need of a mosque in that location.
But you must also remember muslims are stereotyped as terrorists by the western media, the taliban and al qaeda dont represent us, it is us peaceful muslims that follow the original faith and the Jihad we do is internal(Fighting wars in the mind).

So i also have a question for you.

Do you not want a mosque because the victims were killed by "Islamic Extremists" who do not represent muslims. Or simply dont want Islam there.
Because they(terrorists) do not represent muslims and yet you dont want muslims to worship there because of them.
Do the people think that they will be left to say, "We believe" without being put to the test?
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Murad wrote:Well they were not "Islamic Jihadists" they were "Islamic Extremists" or simply Terrorists
The word "jihad" is generally interchangable with "holy war" and while moderate muslims to be a religious internal spiritual duty, the fringe extremists interpret it in a completly different way.
Murad wrote:Altough it is completely lawful to build a mosque at "Ground Zero" and it was approved by the community(mostly non-muslim), I personally think the muslims should back off from building a mosque there.
A few of my reasons are:
*Muslims are drawing attention to themselves
*There is no point of angering american citizens
*They can buid a mosque somewhere else where there will be no problem
That is very reasonable and I appreciate your candidness, are you yourself an american?
Murad wrote:So my opinion is clear, there is no need of a mosque in that location. But you must also remember muslims are stereotyped as terrorists by the western media, the taliban and al qaeda dont represent us, it is us peaceful muslims that follow the original faith and the Jihad we do is internal(Fighting wars in the mind).
I realize that Muslims are wrongly associated with terrorists and that there are moderate muslims; but I think its incorrect to say that the "western media" sterotypes you as this. The liberal American mainstream state run media has been more than fair to the fort hood shooter and the time square bomber.
Murad wrote:Do you not want a mosque because the victims were killed by "Islamic Extremists" who do not represent muslims. Or simply dont want Islam there.
I think it is the equivalent to Americans constructing a shrine to the Japanese at Pearl Harbor after the bombing. While I admitt I do harbor some animosities towards Muslims because of all the terrorism, I realize that it is wrong for me to do so and I need to work that out on my own. But the primary reason I do not want this mosque there is because the liberal Mayor Bloomberg and the rest of the left thinks they have supreme power over this situation and they stomp and cause strife amoung Americans. What was the point of wanting to build a mosque there anyways? There are other places that are not as contreversial but the liberals choose the most polarizing place.
Murad wrote:Because they(terrorists) do not represent muslims and yet you dont want muslims to worship there because of them.
I realize that terrorists do not represent all muslims. But if Christians went out and shot up an abortion clinic, I wouldn't support putting a cross there.

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If they have the funds to construct it and on the land on which to construct it, then, by virtue of the right to property, they consequently have every right to built it on that property. Moreover, I hope they do, just to see the reactions of the typical rubes outraged by this sort of non-issue.

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As someone who is frequently in Manhattan, I say please, please, please build that mosque/Muslim community center! The sooner the better!

Has anyone else driven by or visited Ground Zero lately? How can we leave the gaping spaces and--yes--there's still wreckage there. Build a mosque--build a church and a synagogue alongside it if you want, and, heck, why not build a Hindu or Buddhist temple nearby too? Just don't leave Ground Zero like it is, a constant reminder of that day, with leftover piles of twisted, flattened rubble still glaring at us.

And let's remember that there were Muslims inside the towers too; that they died right alongside all the other victims. Of course we can have a mosque there!

So yes, I'm completely for a mosque/Muslim community center at ground zero. Just, please, someone build something.

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WinePusher wrote: Should a mosque be built at ground zero?
I think that Muslims would be foolish to pursue such a goal, largely for the reasons Murad stated. Is there support for this project within the NYC Muslim community or is this wacky idea just the brainchild of the Mayor's office?
WinePusher wrote: The word "jihad" is generally interchangeable with "holy war" and while moderate Muslims to be a religious internal spiritual duty, the fringe extremists interpret it in a completely different way.

The word jih�d is a noun meaning struggle. A wide range of opinions exist about the exact meaning of jihad. Muslims use the word in a religious context to refer to three types of struggles: an internal struggle to maintain faith, the struggle to improve the Muslim society, or the struggle in a holy war. In western societies the term jihad is often translated as holy war. Muslim authors tend to reject such an approach, stressing non-militant connotations of the word. In technical literature, the term holy war is often used to describe jihad. However, scholars of Islamic studies often stress that both words are not synonymous.
from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad

Last week I drove past an Evangelical church advertising an upcoming "Evangelism Crusade". I guess that they did not get the memo. Crusade has become a byword for barbarism and aggression.
WinePusher wrote: I realize that terrorists do not represent all Muslims. But if Christians went out and shot up an abortion clinic, I wouldn't support putting a cross there.
Exactly. Let's not add fuel to the fire.
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But so many Americans think that we are at war with Islam, thanks to Glen Beck/ Rushbo Islamophobia.

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Re: Should An Islamic Mosque Be Built At Ground Zero?

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WinePusher wrote:Should a mosque be built at ground zero?
No. The WTC site site does not have the appropriate zoning designation for a place of worship.

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Murad wrote:
But you must also remember muslims are stereotyped as terrorists by the western media,
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims.

Why can't a church be built in Saudi Arabia and many other Muslim countries?
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DeBunkem wrote:But so many Americans think that we are at war with Islam, thanks to Glen Beck/ Rushbo Islamophobia.
Pull your head out of the sand. Radical Islam has declared war on you and all us infidels. Do you deny we are at war with radical Islam?
"We are fooling ourselves if we imagine that we can ever make the authentic Gospel popular......it is too simple in an age of rationalism; too narrow in an age of pluralism; too humiliating in an age of self-confidence; too demanding in an age of permissiveness; and too unpatriotic in an age of blind nationalism." Rev. John R.W. Stott, CBE

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