I am currently reading the bible. I purchased "The HarperCollins Study Bible : New Revised Standard Version With the Apocryphal/Deuterocanonical Book"
and just started, but I would like to discuss it with others. I was wondering if anybody might be interested in a weekly bible study/discussion/debate.
My wife does not like discussing it with me, since I am an atheist looking at it academically, but I would love to have a Christian, especially a biblically well-versed Christian, to go though this with and get their interpretation.
Depending on interest, I will start a user group and lead the discussion with a timeline. My goal is to read the entire bible over the next year.
I am considering switching versions if anybody would prefer KJV or basically whatever, specifically since I found a website that offers a timeline we could follow and complete it cover to cover over the next year, starting January 1.
http://www.ewordtoday.com/year/48/b.htm
I would like to point out that the format I propose is a weekly discussion of the scriptures read that week, debates will be asked to be held to that timeline or to spur into a new thread after that week is finished. I will post a link to the scripture being read next week with each coming week.
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Post #2I'm up for it, if you don't mind having a Jew aboard. I may choose to sit out the discussions when we get to the NT.
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Post #3It would be ironic if an atheist was against having a Jew in a bible discussion. Is there a version you prefer and have you ever read it before?cnorman18 wrote:I'm up for it, if you don't mind having a Jew aboard. I may choose to sit out the discussions when we get to the NT.
Would you be interested in doing a Talmud study r anything like it after that?
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Post #4If we go Tanakah, I might join, the you can have an atheist, a Jew, and an atheist Jew.Bio-logical wrote:It would be ironic if an atheist was against having a Jew in a bible discussion. Is there a version you prefer and have you ever read it before?cnorman18 wrote:I'm up for it, if you don't mind having a Jew aboard. I may choose to sit out the discussions when we get to the NT.
Would you be interested in doing a Talmud study r anything like it after that?
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Post #5Is that the entire Old-testament? Is it in English?goat wrote:If we go Tanakah, I might join, the you can have an atheist, a Jew, and an atheist Jew.Bio-logical wrote:It would be ironic if an atheist was against having a Jew in a bible discussion. Is there a version you prefer and have you ever read it before?cnorman18 wrote:I'm up for it, if you don't mind having a Jew aboard. I may choose to sit out the discussions when we get to the NT.
Would you be interested in doing a Talmud study r anything like it after that?
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Post #6It pretty much is.. and it pretty much is the same, although there might be some translations differences, due to theological concerns.Bio-logical wrote:Is that the entire Old-testament? Is it in English?goat wrote:If we go Tanakah, I might join, the you can have an atheist, a Jew, and an atheist Jew.Bio-logical wrote:It would be ironic if an atheist was against having a Jew in a bible discussion. Is there a version you prefer and have you ever read it before?cnorman18 wrote:I'm up for it, if you don't mind having a Jew aboard. I may choose to sit out the discussions when we get to the NT.
Would you be interested in doing a Talmud study r anything like it after that?
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Post #7Then I guess I would prefer it, since it would have an earlier translation... less corrupted. Would both of you object to continuing into the new testament? I would like to read both and have conversation buddies.goat wrote:It pretty much is.. and it pretty much is the same, although there might be some translations differences, due to theological concerns.Bio-logical wrote:Is that the entire Old-testament? Is it in English?goat wrote:If we go Tanakah, I might join, the you can have an atheist, a Jew, and an atheist Jew.Bio-logical wrote:It would be ironic if an atheist was against having a Jew in a bible discussion. Is there a version you prefer and have you ever read it before?cnorman18 wrote:I'm up for it, if you don't mind having a Jew aboard. I may choose to sit out the discussions when we get to the NT.
Would you be interested in doing a Talmud study r anything like it after that?
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Post #8Edited:
I'll be using various translations, but mainly the Jewish Publication Society's translation in their Jewish Study Bible. Yes, I have read it before.
For the record, NEWER translations are more reliable and "less corrupted"; the standards of the scholars are much higher today, and the manuscripts upon which they rely are older and more valid. Translations are not like the "telephone" game, each one depending on the last; every new translation is done from the oldest manuscripts available in the original languages. Some translations are very unreliable indeed, but these are well known.
The Tanach and the Old Testament are identical except for the order of the books.
In my experiences, there are few significant differences between reputable modern translations, of whatever denominational or religious associations.
As for a Talmud study - not me. That is an enormous work, and is very, very difficult. I wouldn't know where to begin.
I'll be using various translations, but mainly the Jewish Publication Society's translation in their Jewish Study Bible. Yes, I have read it before.
For the record, NEWER translations are more reliable and "less corrupted"; the standards of the scholars are much higher today, and the manuscripts upon which they rely are older and more valid. Translations are not like the "telephone" game, each one depending on the last; every new translation is done from the oldest manuscripts available in the original languages. Some translations are very unreliable indeed, but these are well known.
The Tanach and the Old Testament are identical except for the order of the books.
In my experiences, there are few significant differences between reputable modern translations, of whatever denominational or religious associations.
As for a Talmud study - not me. That is an enormous work, and is very, very difficult. I wouldn't know where to begin.
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Post #9Thank you for what may have been the most educational post I have read on this site.cnorman18 wrote:Edited:
I'll be using various translations, but mainly the Jewish Publication Society's translation in their Jewish Study Bible. Yes, I have read it before.
For the record, NEWER translations are more reliable and "less corrupted"; the standards of the scholars are much higher today, and the manuscripts upon which they rely are older and more valid. Translations are not like the "telephone" game, each one depending on the last; every new translation is done from the oldest manuscripts available in the original languages. Some translations are very unreliable indeed, but these are well known.
The Tanach and the Old Testament are identical except for the order of the books.
In my experiences, there are few significant differences between reputable modern translations, of whatever denominational or religious associations.
As for a Talmud study - not me. That is an enormous work, and is very, very difficult. I wouldn't know where to begin.
Then I would defer to you on which version, since I seemingly spoke from my rectum there. Fair 'nuff on the Talmud.
I would like to continue generating interest and see if we could get a group together and agree upon a timeline, so keep checking in and contributing. I will continue trying to establish all the details.
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You guys just need a Heretic Christian and you've got the Four Horsemen!
I'd be interested in following this, just reading your impressions, instead of partaking as I have many other texts I am trying to get through just now. I hope you don't mind a voyeur amongst the ranks
I'd be interested in following this, just reading your impressions, instead of partaking as I have many other texts I am trying to get through just now. I hope you don't mind a voyeur amongst the ranks

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