Christians: why do you think Jews don’t accept the Christian Testament?

[Avoice]

Why do you think Jews reject the teachings of the church?

If you could pick one passage to convince them to believe Jesus is their anointed one (messiah) what would it be?

[JehovahsWitness]

What does Jesus saying he is God's son mean to you? Explain 'like I am 5' ...

WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT JESUS IS GOD'S SON?


Jesus is God's son means that God made Jesus. Jesus (also called "The Word" ) didnt exist anywhere. Then YHWH (Almighty God ) made him exist. God made other sons, we call them angels, but Jesus was the first and the most important being God created.

[Wootah]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #78]

I am God's son. But I don't think Jesus and I mean the same thing.

What does Jesus saying he is God's son mean to you? Explain 'like I am 5' and not commit blasphemy by making not God equal to God.

Are you suggesting saying Jesus is not equal to God ... "blasphemy"?

You have a book called the OT that makes the shema clear and you read it and how much israel suffered for not having one God but many. For putting other not God things above God.

Right?

Then you read the new testament and it has, for you, a not God creature called Jesus saying outrageous things like, 'I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but through me.'

If you follow/accept Jesus as not God then that is worse blasphemy than the idolatry of the OT.

Make your position make sense.

[Wootah]

What does Jesus saying he is God's son mean to you? Explain 'like I am 5' ...

WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT JESUS IS GOD'S SON?


Jesus is God's son means that God made Jesus. Jesus (also called "The Word" ) didnt exist anywhere. Then YHWH (Almighty God ) made him exist. God made other sons, we call them angels, but Jesus was the first and the most important being God created.

So how can a created thing pay for the sins committed against a Holy God?

[JehovahsWitness]

... Jesus saying outrageous things like, 'I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but through me.'

What pray tell is "outrageous" about that?

[JehovahsWitness]

So how can a created thing pay for the sins committed against a Holy God?

How? By God's love, that's how ....please read:

JOHN 3:17

For God did not send his Son into the world for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him

For more details please go to other posts related to...

ADAM &EVE, ORIGINAL SIN and ...RANSOM

[JehovahsWitness]

If you follow/accept Jesus as not God then that is worse blasphemy than the idolatry of the OT.

Idolatry would be if one were to worship anyone but the Father YHWH (Jehovah). Jesus never demanded his followers worship him, only that they recognise him as the Messiah and put faith in him as such.

To learn more please go to other posts related to ....

WORSHIP , IDOLATRY and ... BLASPHEMY

[Revelations won]

To all respondents,

I have reviewed many of the private interpretations on this topic. Perhaps we should observe some historical facts and the conditions which will if properly observed may give new insight to the future events relating to the tribe of Judah.

I can understand why many of our dear Jewish brethren after having such a long history of abuse by pretended christians have intense rejection of those abusers. In fact when we look at latter day history we see the strong attitude by "christian nations" that the tribe of Judah would never return to their sacred home land.

Nevertheless, this abusive attitude held by so many has been challenged by a latter day Jewish apostle in the mid 18 hundreds wherein Apostle Orson Hyde traveled to Jerusalem and dedicated that sacred land for the gathering or return of the Jews. I find it amusing that there were many in that day that were determined that such would never happen.

After World War II , a mighty change happened which fulfilled that prophetic dedication. Their return to that holy land was not without extreme difficulty however. If you follow those events closely, you will observe that the amazing Jewish army was so very ill equipped that they with shared weapons between their forces in a most miraculous manner overcame a much larger well equipped opposing force! Jumping ahead several years we observe some other amazing action wherein they did a spectacular job in the "six day" war.

Are their troubles over yet? By no means! We shall yet see these corrupt gentile nations assemble a massive army to the land called Israel for the express purpose of total genocide to destroy every breathing Jew.
When those armies have murdered the two latter day prophets they will again attempt to complete their evil complete slaughter of all jews. At that critical monumental point in history they will see the appearance of he who is King of kings and Lord of lords the Holy Messiah on the mount of olives. In his first coming he came as the humble illustrator of the law. In his second coming he will come as the mighty administrator and deliverer of the law. The invading murderous army will then face a totally unexpected foe, the mighty Messiah and the army, even the army of the "host of Israel". Then and only then will the remaining Jews recognize their Holy Messiah who will deliver them from utter destruction.

That is my take as a fellow member of the House of Israel on this matter. You can say what you want, but time is on my side. I look forward with complete confidence in the Holy One of Israel and his mighty deliverance of our fellow brethren of the house of Judah in the coming years.

Kind regards,
RW

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #78]

I am God's son. But I don't think Jesus and I mean the same thing.

What does Jesus saying he is God's son mean to you? Explain 'like I am 5' and not commit blasphemy by making not God equal to God.

Are you suggesting saying Jesus is not equal to God ... "blasphemy"?

You have a book called the OT that makes the shema clear and you read it and how much israel suffered for not having one God but many. For putting other not God things above God.

Right?

Then you read the new testament and it has, for you, a not God creature called Jesus saying outrageous things like, 'I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but through me.'

If you follow/accept Jesus as not God then that is worse blasphemy than the idolatry of the OT.

Make your position make sense.

I'm sorry to have to say it, but we are not the ones committing blasphemy. For you to say that Jesus claimed to be God Himself is actually blasphemy on your part. You have denied the superiority of the Father, YHWH, and His right to rule the universe.

[Wootah]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #78]

I am God's son. But I don't think Jesus and I mean the same thing.

What does Jesus saying he is God's son mean to you? Explain 'like I am 5' and not commit blasphemy by making not God equal to God.

Are you suggesting saying Jesus is not equal to God ... "blasphemy"?

You have a book called the OT that makes the shema clear and you read it and how much israel suffered for not having one God but many. For putting other not God things above God.

Right?

Then you read the new testament and it has, for you, a not God creature called Jesus saying outrageous things like, 'I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but through me.'

If you follow/accept Jesus as not God then that is worse blasphemy than the idolatry of the OT.

Make your position make sense.

I'm sorry to have to say it, but we are not the ones committing blasphemy. For you to say that Jesus claimed to be God Himself is actually blasphemy on your part. You have denied the superiority of the Father, YHWH, and His right to rule the universe.

That's the truth of it.

If you are ashamed of Jesus and his words and their meaning - Jesus will be ashamed of you.

And of course you recognise the superiority of the Father but ignore the fact the NT talks a lot about not God but you keep reading it.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #78]

I am God's son. But I don't think Jesus and I mean the same thing.

What does Jesus saying he is God's son mean to you? Explain 'like I am 5' and not commit blasphemy by making not God equal to God.

Are you suggesting saying Jesus is not equal to God ... "blasphemy"?

You have a book called the OT that makes the shema clear and you read it and how much israel suffered for not having one God but many. For putting other not God things above God.

Right?

Then you read the new testament and it has, for you, a not God creature called Jesus saying outrageous things like, 'I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but through me.'

If you follow/accept Jesus as not God then that is worse blasphemy than the idolatry of the OT.

Make your position make sense.

Your position is way out in left field. Why does "I am the way, the truth and the life" have to mean that Jesus is God? No. Jesus is that because God (Jehovah) said so. Jesus is the means by which Jehovah saves the world. Jesus doesn't have to be God Himself to save us.