God's Actual Name

[jgh7]

I've seen God called by different names. As much as I know, the consonants for his name are given in the OT, but the vowels are missing.

Does anyone here claim to know what the vowels are and thus the proper pronunciation of God's name. Or is it a mystery that will remain unknown?

[onewithhim]

I've seen God called by different names. As much as I know, the consonants for his name are given in the OT, but the vowels are missing.

Does anyone here claim to know what the vowels are and thus the proper pronunciation of God's name. Or is it a mystery that will remain unknown?

God has a new name, but none of these people will know it.

His name is pronounced in varied ways, depending on what culture you are aligned with. The English-speaking world has called Him "Jehovah" for centuries, due mainly because of the King James Version (see Psalm 83:18, KJV).

God is not called by different names. His name appears in the Hebrew Scriptures 7,000 times as the Tetragrammaton, YHWH, therefore, if anyone isn't comfortable calling Him "Jehovah," they can say each letter of the Tetragammaton (Yohd He Waw He). That is entirely ok with God.

As Judaism stopped to pronounced YHWH due to its holiness, are Christians free to chose how to pronounced it?
Although the Tetragrammaton was pronounced freely at the time the Torah and Prophets were written, its holiness in Judaism is such that it is no longer pronounced, except under very rare circumstances.
Modern Rabbinical Jewish culture judges it forbidden to pronounce this name. In prayers it is replaced by the word אֲדֹנָי (Adonai, Hebrew pronunciation: [adoˈnaj], lit. transl. My Lord.

It was not stopped pronouncing because of its holiness, because God wanted people to know and use His name. (Exodus 3:15; Young's Literal Translation; ASB; Interlinear Bible in Greek, Hebrew and English) It was a superstitious action on the part of some rabbi, probably urged on by Satan himself to get God's name deleted from everything. After all, Jesus condemned the religious leaders for their hypocrisy, and removing His name from the Scriptures was part of that undoubtedly. It was important to Jesus to make God's name known. (John 17:6,26) If people don't know how to pronounce His name, then they should say the letters of the Tetragrammaton---"Yod-He-WaW-He." That is showing honor to God.

[JehovahsWitness]

Much in every way! First of all, they have been entrusted with the very words of God.

No they WERE entrusted with the word of God ; they guarded it well but sadly missed its point and its blessings

1 THESSELONIANS 2:14-16

...you suffered at the hands of your own countrymen the same things that they also are suffering at the hands of the Jews, who even killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and persecuted us. Furthermore, they are not pleasing God, but are against the interests of all men, 16 as they try to prevent us from speaking to people of the nations so that these might be saved

JW

[Capbook]

Much in every way! First of all, they have been entrusted with the very words of God.

No they WERE entrusted with the word of God ; they guarded it well but sadly missed its point and its blessings

1 THESSELONIANS 2:14-16

...you suffered at the hands of your own countrymen the same things that they also are suffering at the hands of the Jews, who even killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and persecuted us. Furthermore, they are not pleasing God, but are against the interests of all men, 16 as they try to prevent us from speaking to people of the nations so that these might be saved

JW

I believe these verses will come true.
Romans 11:25-26
I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.(NIV)

[onewithhim]

Much in every way! First of all, they have been entrusted with the very words of God.

No they WERE entrusted with the word of God ; they guarded it well but sadly missed its point and its blessings

1 THESSELONIANS 2:14-16

...you suffered at the hands of your own countrymen the same things that they also are suffering at the hands of the Jews, who even killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and persecuted us. Furthermore, they are not pleasing God, but are against the interests of all men, 16 as they try to prevent us from speaking to people of the nations so that these might be saved

JW

I believe these verses will come true.
Romans 11:25-26
I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.(NIV)

We are speaking here of spiritual Israel, not the earthly nation. Paul said: those who accept Jesus are the Israel of God (Galatians 6:14-16), and the New Jerusalem above (Galatians 4:26). They are the bride of Christ and will reign with him. They are the anointed disciples of Christ. They are a relatively small number of people, whereas those on the earth--the un-anointed--will live here forever in Paradise, as it was supposed to be in the beginning.

[Capbook]

Much in every way! First of all, they have been entrusted with the very words of God.

No they WERE entrusted with the word of God ; they guarded it well but sadly missed its point and its blessings

1 THESSELONIANS 2:14-16

...you suffered at the hands of your own countrymen the same things that they also are suffering at the hands of the Jews, who even killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and persecuted us. Furthermore, they are not pleasing God, but are against the interests of all men, 16 as they try to prevent us from speaking to people of the nations so that these might be saved

JW

I believe these verses will come true.
Romans 11:25-26
I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.(NIV)

We are speaking here of spiritual Israel, not the earthly nation. Paul said: those who accept Jesus are the Israel of God (Galatians 6:14-16), and the New Jerusalem above (Galatians 4:26). They are the bride of Christ and will reign with him. They are the anointed disciples of Christ. They are a relatively small number of people, whereas those on the earth--the un-anointed--will live here forever in Paradise, as it was supposed to be in the beginning.

Clark understand that Israel will acknowledged Jesus as the way to salvation after full number of the Gentiles has come in. They may also be called spiritual Israel.
Romans 11:25
[Until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.] And this blindness will continue until the church of the Gentiles be fully completed-till the Gospel be preached through all the nations of the earth,
Romans 11:26
[And so all Israel shall be saved] Shall be brought into the way of salvation, by acknowledging the Messiah;
(from Adam Clarke's Commentary)

You says."those on the earth--the un-anointed--will live here forever in Paradise, as it was supposed to be in the beginning". May I know what verse you are basing that statement?

[JehovahsWitness]

Clark understand that Israel will acknowledged Jesus as the way to salvation

If by "Israel" he meant spiritual Israelites that is correct; but If he was refering to the fleshly descendants of Abraham or the political state of Israel then I believe Clark was wrong.

[Capbook]

Clark understand that Israel will acknowledged Jesus as the way to salvation

If by "Israel" he meant spiritual Israelites that is correct; but If he was refering to the fleshly descendants of Abraham or the political state of Israel then I believe Clark was wrong.

The Bible said so, until the fulness of the Gentiles become Christian, they will be.
Rom 11:25-26
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
KJV

[JehovahsWitness]

Clark understand that Israel will acknowledged Jesus as the way to salvation

If by "Israel" he meant spiritual Israelites that is correct; but If he was refering to the fleshly descendants of Abraham or the political state of Israel then I believe Clark was wrong.

The Bible said so, until the fulness of the Gentiles become Christian, they will be.
Rom 11:25-26
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
KJV

All Israel refers to spiritual Israel (The born again Christians)

[Capbook]

Clark understand that Israel will acknowledged Jesus as the way to salvation

If by "Israel" he meant spiritual Israelites that is correct; but If he was refering to the fleshly descendants of Abraham or the political state of Israel then I believe Clark was wrong.

The Bible said so, until the fulness of the Gentiles become Christian, they will be.
Rom 11:25-26
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
KJV

All Israel refers to spiritual Israel (The born again Christians)

They will be. Romans 11:25-26.

[JehovahsWitness]

All Israel refers to spiritual Israel (The born again Christians)

They will be. Romans 11:25-26.

ButCjristian include people that are not natural Israelites. Are these people that do not descend from Abraham also Israelites