Clarifying questions for JW's

[Revelations won]

I have a few clarifying question for JW's as follows.

1. Do you claim that Jesus the Christ is just a mortal being like us?

2. Do you claim that Jesus the Christd oes not now have a body of flesh and bones?

[Capbook]

Do the GB believe that "the Law and the Prophets" is the Tanakh ....?

My understanding is that the Tanakh is simply the Hebrew scriptures (The "old testament" ) in a different order (ie there are no books in the Tanakh that cannot also be found in the bible canon.

I cannot speak for the members if the governing body, but if the above is an accurate understanding, Jehovah's witnesses believe the Tanakh is another translation of inspired scripture.

No, "Tanakh" is not a translation ...

Okay but if there are no books in the Tanakh that cannot also be found in the Hebrew scriptures of the bible cankn then we view the Tanakh as inspired scripture.

The Tanakh is the Hebrew Scriptures mentioned by Jesus in Luke 24:44. The three devisions of the Law, the Prophets and the Writings.
Or the Torah, Niviim and Ketuvim, and Psalms is the first book of the Writings(Ketuvim).
I have picture of the list but I don't know how to post it here.
Also the word of God were committed to the Jews.(Rom 3:1-2)

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Rom 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
Rom 3:2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God

Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

[JehovahsWitness]

My understanding is that the Tanakh is simply the Hebrew scriptures (The "old testament" ) in a different order (ie there are no books in the Tanakh that cannot also be found in the bible canon.

The Tanakh is the Hebrew Scriptures mentioned by Jesus ...

How does what you say here differ from what I said?

[Revelations won]

Dear Onewithhim,

All I am asking for is a simple "YES or NO" answer to my question.


Does Christ have a resurrected body of "FLESH and BONE".?

[onewithhim]

Dear Onewithhim,

All I am asking for is a simple "YES or NO" answer to my question.


Does Christ have a resurrected body of "FLESH and BONE".?

NO.

If he took back his physical body his sacrifice would be moot.

He was raised in the spirit, as the Bible indicates.

"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul: the last Adam [Christ] was made a quickening spirit." (I Corinthians 15:45, KJV)

Flesh cannot inherit the Kingdom of heaven. (I Corinthians 15:50)

[Capbook]

My understanding is that the Tanakh is simply the Hebrew scriptures (The "old testament" ) in a different order (ie there are no books in the Tanakh that cannot also be found in the bible canon.

The Tanakh is the Hebrew Scriptures mentioned by Jesus ...

How does what you say here differ from what I said?

Good, cause I encounter one I believe also a JW whom if I am not wrong referred the phrase "the Law and the Prophets" as Bible.
As the Bible for us consist of the OT and NT.

[JehovahsWitness]

My understanding is that the Tanakh is simply the Hebrew scriptures (The "old testament" ) in a different order (ie there are no books in the Tanakh that cannot also be found in the bible canon.

The Tanakh is the Hebrew Scriptures mentioned by Jesus ...

How does what you say here differ from what I said?

Good....

Does that mean you agree with what I wrote and that I am correct to say that " Tanakh is simply the Hebrew scriptures (The "old testament" ) in a different order "?

[Bible_Student]

The word Tanakh is a Hebrew acronym; the consonants each represent words, with the vowels added in so you can pronounce it: Ta-Na-Kh. The term is a Jewish designation for the Hebrew Scriptures, and it comes from combining the first letter of each of these three sections:

Torah (Law),
Nevi'im (Prophets), and
Ketuvim (Writings).

Sometimes the Writings were called just "The Psalms", since it was the first book of this third section of the Hebrew-Aramaic Scriptures. In Luke 24:44 Jesus used these three terms (he used Psalms instead of Writings) indicating that the canon of the Hebrew Scriptures was well-established when he was on earth and that canon was approved by him.

[Capbook]

My understanding is that the Tanakh is simply the Hebrew scriptures (The "old testament" ) in a different order (ie there are no books in the Tanakh that cannot also be found in the bible canon.

The Tanakh is the Hebrew Scriptures mentioned by Jesus ...

How does what you say here differ from what I said?

Good....

Does that mean you agree with what I wrote and that I am correct to say that " Tanakh is simply the Hebrew scriptures (The "old testament" ) in a different order "?

Yes, I agree.
Do JW believes that the phrase "the Law and the Prophets" does refer to the whole Bible (OT & NT)?

[JehovahsWitness]

Does that mean you agree with what I wrote and that I am correct to say that " Tanakh is simply the Hebrew scriptures (The "old testament" ) in a different order "?

Yes, I agree. ...

Then my work here is done.



Re: bible. When most people refer to "the bible" they are usually referring to the 66 books of Christian canon comprised of the Hebrew scriptures (see above) and the Christian Greek scriptures. Jehovah's Witnesses believe the entire bible canon to be inspired of God irrespective of what order the books are presented.

[Bible_Student]

...Christ’s dearth consisted of the suffering unto death of his body of flesh, bone and and blood.

His Spirit body never died. Was never resurrected!

While his physical body was dead , his spirit body was very much alive ...

I've encountered that belief numerous times. It seems to stem from the idea that when people die, certain unseen body continues to exist alive.

However, Jesus never mentioned that his body would perish and his spirit would embark on a journey... The kind of death described in the Bible isn't like that.

Jesus stated he would die and rise again on the third day. If he were alive during that period, could we truly call it a death?

Here's what Jesus proclaimed:

Revelation 1:17 ... I am the First and the Last, 18 and the living one, and I became dead, but look! I am living forever and ever, and I have the keys of death and of the [Hades].

The concept of a death where one doesn’t truly die is contradictory. When God mentioned death to Adam, he did not imply such a notion. From Adam's time, every human inherited the same kind of death: a complete end of life both here and elsewhere. When Jesus died, he experienced death as a human and awaited God’s resurrection. If the mistaken belief that death means being alive somehow were true, why did Jesus need to wait for God to restore his life?