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Does the true God have a body of flesh and bone?

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Does the true God have a body of flesh and bone?

According to scripture God and all of us including Christ have a spirit body.

According to the scriptures all of us including Jesus Christ are the literal spirit children of God the father.

According to the New Testament Christs body was crucified and killed. His spirit body however was never dead, for between the death of his physical body his spirit body went unto the spirits in prison and preached repentance unto those who had previously died. This was done before his glorious resurrection.

So do we all including Christ have an immortal body of flesh and bone after our resurrection?

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Capbook wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:00 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:45 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:20 am Those who crucified Jesus includes the one man that stabbed Him.
are you suggesting one soldiers stabbed Jesus , but many people pierced him. Am I understanding you correctly?
I believe the sentence is clear. "Those who crucified Jesus includes the one man that stabbed Him."
So who were the people that pierced him?
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Dear respondents,

I see some interesting comments, but perhaps I missed one that answers my OP question.

Does the true God have a body of flesh and bone?

Is there anyone that can give a clear answer?

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Revelations won wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:06 am Dear respondents,

I see some interesting comments, but perhaps I missed one that answers my OP question.

Does the true God have a body of flesh and bone?

Is there anyone that can give a clear answer?
Referring to Jesus, He has in His human nature.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:00 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 10:06 am
Capbook wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 1:48 am
onewithhim wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 5:58 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:54 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:41 pm
Capbook wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:12 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:57 am
Capbook wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 6:34 am May I know what verse that says we changed to spirit bodies?
May I know what verse says for our flesh will be a participant in the glory of God?
Can you give me the verse?
The question of this thread is,"So do we all including Christ have an immortal body of flesh and bone after our resurrection?"

I would believe Jesus is, as the verse says the same Jesus.
Acts 1:11 "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."(NIV)
You may remember that the clouds took him out of the disciples' sight. That is how he will come back----invisibly to the naked eye. He took on a spirit body when he was resurrected, and appeared to people by taking on a physical body so they could see him, and then reverted back to his spiritual body, just like the angels who appeared to Abraham and Lot did.
When Jesus comes the second time with angels, do you mean for all to see them they will be in physical body?
No. Jesus said that the world would see him no more.(John 14:19) People would "see" him with the eyes of faith; they would understand what will be happening. Jesus indicated that at Matthew 16:9 (see also Matthew 13:14,15). "See" would mean understand. Jesus will return spiritually, invisibly, like when the clouds took him up from the disciples' sight when he left (Acts 1:9). But we will know that he's here. (It would be interesting if he showed up visibly riding a white horse! But I don't think that would happen, in view of the things he said about the world seeing him no more.)
It seems that your interpretation contradict this verse, In Jesus coming every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him. And "see" defined by lexicon as to be seen, to be visible, within the range of sight.
NT:3700 optanoo - to be seen by or to be visible to, in the sense of being within the range of sight - 'to be seen by, to be visible to.'
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain.)

Revelation 1:7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.(NKJV)
To "see" also can mean "to understand." I'm surprised your source doesn't say that, because Jesus spoke about "seeing" as understanding. (Matthew 13:14,15)

"And toward them the prophecy of Isaiah is having fulfilment, which says, 'By hearing, you will hear but by no means get the sense of it; and, looking, you will look but by no means see.' For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it...'"

Obviously he wasn't talking about their literal ears and eyes. He was clearly speaking about their willingness to understand, so they might "turn back" and get healed.

So when Jesus said that all eyes would "see" him he meant everyone will understand the truth about him.

Would you visit your lexicon and see the meaning of the word "see" in that verse.
Strong does not define it as "understand"

KJV - appear, look, see, shewself.
(New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)
What is another definition of "see" that people are familiar with? (Look again at my post above; Jesus spoke of "seeing" in another way than what your source describes.) My Oxford Dictionary says that "see" could also mean: "to discern mentally; understand (I see what you mean)."

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Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:27 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:18 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:00 am Would you visit your lexicon and see the meaning of the word "see" in that verse.
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Are you defining the Greek word "optanoo?"
I prefer the first definition.
Well other people prefer the second definition.

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Revelations won wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:06 am Dear respondents,

I see some interesting comments, but perhaps I missed one that answers my OP question.

Does the true God have a body of flesh and bone?

Is there anyone that can give a clear answer?
Yes, and it has already been given. To reiterate, the Bible says that "God is a Spirit" (John 4:24) and a spirit does not have a physical body.

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onewithhim wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:42 pm
Revelations won wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:06 am Dear respondents,

I see some interesting comments, but perhaps I missed one that answers my OP question.

Does the true God have a body of flesh and bone?

Is there anyone that can give a clear answer?
Yes, and it has already been given. To reiterate, the Bible says that "God is a Spirit" (John 4:24) and a spirit does not have a physical body.
Yes, referring to God Jesus human nature.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:58 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:42 pm
Revelations won wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:06 am Dear respondents,

I see some interesting comments, but perhaps I missed one that answers my OP question.

Does the true God have a body of flesh and bone?

Is there anyone that can give a clear answer?
Yes, and it has already been given. To reiterate, the Bible says that "God is a Spirit" (John 4:24) and a spirit does not have a physical body.
Yes, referring to God Jesus human nature.
No, it's referring to the present. DOES [now] the true God have a body of flesh and bone? God is a spirit and does not have a physical body. (John 4:24)

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