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God writes the names. Eddie proved it.
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onewithhim wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:35 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:11 pm
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Capbook wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 1:49 pm

As the phrase, " Jesus in the form of God", do you worship Him?
Same as your belief that, " angels are in the form of God", do you worship angels?
I have already answered that. Now you tell me, in your estimation, what form do angels have?
They are spirits but not in the form of God.
Jesus before incarnation as in the form of God and equal with God.
Can any man claim that, all what the Father has is mine. Jesus said it. (John 16:15)
What is different about God's being a Spirit and the angels being spirits? Spirit life is all the same---a body must be spiritual rather than physical to endure living in the spirit realm. How are spirits NOT in the form of God who is a Spirit?
Though they are all spirit but angels worship God Jesus not the other way around.
Can find a verse that all angels of the Father worship another being?


Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
The question was----What are angels made of if not spirit bodies?
Yes, they are spirits just like God.
But my question is, as they are spirits like God, do you worship angels?
NO. What is your point?
You said angels are spirits same as God. Yes.
You said angels are in the form of God. Though no verse that said so but you don't worship.
Jesus as in the form of God. But why worship Jesus? Not the angels.
How do you explain Jesus position, is He below the level of angels? If yes or no, kindly explain.
Is Jesus level above the angels? If yes, explain what He is then.
I don't worship Jesus the same as I worship Jehovah, the Father. Jehovah is the only God Almighty, above everything else in the universe that He created through His Son. We highly respect and honor Jesus, which is a form of worship, for what he's done in not only creating everything, but dying an ignominious death for the world. He is above every angel.
Thanks, as He is above angels, what Jesus is? A true God or a false God?

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Re: Book Of Life ( Who Writes The Names)

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Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:03 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:35 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:06 pm
onewithhim wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:32 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:39 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:34 pm
Capbook wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:37 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:42 pm
I have already answered that. Now you tell me, in your estimation, what form do angels have?
They are spirits but not in the form of God.
Jesus before incarnation as in the form of God and equal with God.
Can any man claim that, all what the Father has is mine. Jesus said it. (John 16:15)
What is different about God's being a Spirit and the angels being spirits? Spirit life is all the same---a body must be spiritual rather than physical to endure living in the spirit realm. How are spirits NOT in the form of God who is a Spirit?
Though they are all spirit but angels worship God Jesus not the other way around.
Can find a verse that all angels of the Father worship another being?


Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
The question was----What are angels made of if not spirit bodies?
Yes, they are spirits just like God.
But my question is, as they are spirits like God, do you worship angels?
NO. What is your point?
You said angels are spirits same as God. Yes.
You said angels are in the form of God. Though no verse that said so but you don't worship.
Jesus as in the form of God. But why worship Jesus? Not the angels.
How do you explain Jesus position, is He below the level of angels? If yes or no, kindly explain.
Is Jesus level above the angels? If yes, explain what He is then.
I don't worship Jesus the same as I worship Jehovah, the Father. Jehovah is the only God Almighty, above everything else in the universe that He created through His Son. We highly respect and honor Jesus, which is a form of worship, for what he's done in not only creating everything, but dying an ignominious death for the world. He is above every angel.
Thanks, as He is above angels, what Jesus is? A true God or a false God?
He is subordinate to the Father who is God Almighty. To call Jesus a "god" is to say that we honor him highly as a powerful individual. That is what "god" meant to the Greeks of the apostles' day. Judges and people in high political positions were "worshipped" as gods.

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Re: Book Of Life ( Who Writes The Names)

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onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:03 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:35 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:06 pm
onewithhim wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:32 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:39 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:34 pm
Capbook wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:37 pm

They are spirits but not in the form of God.
Jesus before incarnation as in the form of God and equal with God.
Can any man claim that, all what the Father has is mine. Jesus said it. (John 16:15)
What is different about God's being a Spirit and the angels being spirits? Spirit life is all the same---a body must be spiritual rather than physical to endure living in the spirit realm. How are spirits NOT in the form of God who is a Spirit?
Though they are all spirit but angels worship God Jesus not the other way around.
Can find a verse that all angels of the Father worship another being?


Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
The question was----What are angels made of if not spirit bodies?
Yes, they are spirits just like God.
But my question is, as they are spirits like God, do you worship angels?
NO. What is your point?
You said angels are spirits same as God. Yes.
You said angels are in the form of God. Though no verse that said so but you don't worship.
Jesus as in the form of God. But why worship Jesus? Not the angels.
How do you explain Jesus position, is He below the level of angels? If yes or no, kindly explain.
Is Jesus level above the angels? If yes, explain what He is then.
I don't worship Jesus the same as I worship Jehovah, the Father. Jehovah is the only God Almighty, above everything else in the universe that He created through His Son. We highly respect and honor Jesus, which is a form of worship, for what he's done in not only creating everything, but dying an ignominious death for the world. He is above every angel.
Thanks, as He is above angels, what Jesus is? A true God or a false God?
He is subordinate to the Father who is God Almighty. To call Jesus a "god" is to say that we honor him highly as a powerful individual. That is what "god" meant to the Greeks of the apostles' day. Judges and people in high political positions were "worshipped" as gods.
Following your interpretation, would you mind answering the following;
1. The Father - one true God, worth to be worship? Yes or no.
2. Jesus - a true god worth to be worship of a false god worth to be worship?
3. Zeus - a true or false god?

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Re: Book Of Life ( Who Writes The Names)

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Capbook wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:58 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:03 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:35 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:06 pm
onewithhim wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:32 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:39 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:34 pm
What is different about God's being a Spirit and the angels being spirits? Spirit life is all the same---a body must be spiritual rather than physical to endure living in the spirit realm. How are spirits NOT in the form of God who is a Spirit?
Though they are all spirit but angels worship God Jesus not the other way around.
Can find a verse that all angels of the Father worship another being?


Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
The question was----What are angels made of if not spirit bodies?
Yes, they are spirits just like God.
But my question is, as they are spirits like God, do you worship angels?
NO. What is your point?
You said angels are spirits same as God. Yes.
You said angels are in the form of God. Though no verse that said so but you don't worship.
Jesus as in the form of God. But why worship Jesus? Not the angels.
How do you explain Jesus position, is He below the level of angels? If yes or no, kindly explain.
Is Jesus level above the angels? If yes, explain what He is then.
I don't worship Jesus the same as I worship Jehovah, the Father. Jehovah is the only God Almighty, above everything else in the universe that He created through His Son. We highly respect and honor Jesus, which is a form of worship, for what he's done in not only creating everything, but dying an ignominious death for the world. He is above every angel.
Thanks, as He is above angels, what Jesus is? A true God or a false God?
He is subordinate to the Father who is God Almighty. To call Jesus a "god" is to say that we honor him highly as a powerful individual. That is what "god" meant to the Greeks of the apostles' day. Judges and people in high political positions were "worshipped" as gods.
Following your interpretation, would you mind answering the following;
1. The Father - one true God, worth to be worship? Yes or no.
2. Jesus - a true god worth to be worship of a false god worth to be worship?
3. Zeus - a true or false god?
It is not my "interpretation." To know a little bit of Greek history would apprise you of the fact that "god" meant a person in a position of power and authority, and they were "worshipped" as gods.

1. The Father = Yes, the one true God.
2. Jesus = a person of power and authority, a true god, not THE true God. The true God GAVE Jesus Jesus' authority and power.
Zeus = a false god and not worthy of any worship.

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Re: Book Of Life ( Who Writes The Names)

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onewithhim wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 11:49 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:58 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:03 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:35 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:06 pm
onewithhim wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:32 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:39 am

Though they are all spirit but angels worship God Jesus not the other way around.
Can find a verse that all angels of the Father worship another being?


Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
The question was----What are angels made of if not spirit bodies?
Yes, they are spirits just like God.
But my question is, as they are spirits like God, do you worship angels?
NO. What is your point?
You said angels are spirits same as God. Yes.
You said angels are in the form of God. Though no verse that said so but you don't worship.
Jesus as in the form of God. But why worship Jesus? Not the angels.
How do you explain Jesus position, is He below the level of angels? If yes or no, kindly explain.
Is Jesus level above the angels? If yes, explain what He is then.
I don't worship Jesus the same as I worship Jehovah, the Father. Jehovah is the only God Almighty, above everything else in the universe that He created through His Son. We highly respect and honor Jesus, which is a form of worship, for what he's done in not only creating everything, but dying an ignominious death for the world. He is above every angel.
Thanks, as He is above angels, what Jesus is? A true God or a false God?
He is subordinate to the Father who is God Almighty. To call Jesus a "god" is to say that we honor him highly as a powerful individual. That is what "god" meant to the Greeks of the apostles' day. Judges and people in high political positions were "worshipped" as gods.
Following your interpretation, would you mind answering the following;
1. The Father - one true God, worth to be worship? Yes or no.
2. Jesus - a true god worth to be worship of a false god worth to be worship?
3. Zeus - a true or false god?
It is not my "interpretation." To know a little bit of Greek history would apprise you of the fact that "god" meant a person in a position of power and authority, and they were "worshipped" as gods.

1. The Father = Yes, the one true God.
2. Jesus = a person of power and authority, a true god, not THE true God. The true God GAVE Jesus Jesus' authority and power.
Zeus = a false god and not worthy of any worship.
A "true God" and a" true god" as not of the same state of being God, I believe is not monotheism.
Is that the theology of JWs?

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Re: Book Of Life ( Who Writes The Names)

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Capbook wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:10 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 11:49 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:58 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:03 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:35 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:06 pm
onewithhim wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:32 am

The question was----What are angels made of if not spirit bodies?
Yes, they are spirits just like God.
But my question is, as they are spirits like God, do you worship angels?
NO. What is your point?
You said angels are spirits same as God. Yes.
You said angels are in the form of God. Though no verse that said so but you don't worship.
Jesus as in the form of God. But why worship Jesus? Not the angels.
How do you explain Jesus position, is He below the level of angels? If yes or no, kindly explain.
Is Jesus level above the angels? If yes, explain what He is then.
I don't worship Jesus the same as I worship Jehovah, the Father. Jehovah is the only God Almighty, above everything else in the universe that He created through His Son. We highly respect and honor Jesus, which is a form of worship, for what he's done in not only creating everything, but dying an ignominious death for the world. He is above every angel.
Thanks, as He is above angels, what Jesus is? A true God or a false God?
He is subordinate to the Father who is God Almighty. To call Jesus a "god" is to say that we honor him highly as a powerful individual. That is what "god" meant to the Greeks of the apostles' day. Judges and people in high political positions were "worshipped" as gods.
Following your interpretation, would you mind answering the following;
1. The Father - one true God, worth to be worship? Yes or no.
2. Jesus - a true god worth to be worship of a false god worth to be worship?
3. Zeus - a true or false god?
It is not my "interpretation." To know a little bit of Greek history would apprise you of the fact that "god" meant a person in a position of power and authority, and they were "worshipped" as gods.

1. The Father = Yes, the one true God.
2. Jesus = a person of power and authority, a true god, not THE true God. The true God GAVE Jesus Jesus' authority and power.
Zeus = a false god and not worthy of any worship.
A "true God" and a" true god" as not of the same state of being God, I believe is not monotheism.
Is that the theology of JWs?
I just explained to you why we call Jesus "a god." There is only ONE Almighty God, the Father. There are other gods worshipped that are all false. Jesus is not Almighty God but he is a powerful, influential, revered individual. To say that he is not Almighty God shows that JWs worship one God, unlike trinitarians.

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onewithhim wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:44 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:10 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 11:49 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:58 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:03 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:35 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:06 pm

Yes, they are spirits just like God.
But my question is, as they are spirits like God, do you worship angels?
NO. What is your point?
You said angels are spirits same as God. Yes.
You said angels are in the form of God. Though no verse that said so but you don't worship.
Jesus as in the form of God. But why worship Jesus? Not the angels.
How do you explain Jesus position, is He below the level of angels? If yes or no, kindly explain.
Is Jesus level above the angels? If yes, explain what He is then.
I don't worship Jesus the same as I worship Jehovah, the Father. Jehovah is the only God Almighty, above everything else in the universe that He created through His Son. We highly respect and honor Jesus, which is a form of worship, for what he's done in not only creating everything, but dying an ignominious death for the world. He is above every angel.
Thanks, as He is above angels, what Jesus is? A true God or a false God?
He is subordinate to the Father who is God Almighty. To call Jesus a "god" is to say that we honor him highly as a powerful individual. That is what "god" meant to the Greeks of the apostles' day. Judges and people in high political positions were "worshipped" as gods.
Following your interpretation, would you mind answering the following;
1. The Father - one true God, worth to be worship? Yes or no.
2. Jesus - a true god worth to be worship of a false god worth to be worship?
3. Zeus - a true or false god?
It is not my "interpretation." To know a little bit of Greek history would apprise you of the fact that "god" meant a person in a position of power and authority, and they were "worshipped" as gods.

1. The Father = Yes, the one true God.
2. Jesus = a person of power and authority, a true god, not THE true God. The true God GAVE Jesus Jesus' authority and power.
Zeus = a false god and not worthy of any worship.
A "true God" and a" true god" as not of the same state of being God, I believe is not monotheism.
Is that the theology of JWs?
I just explained to you why we call Jesus "a god." There is only ONE Almighty God, the Father. There are other gods worshipped that are all false. Jesus is not Almighty God but he is a powerful, influential, revered individual. To say that he is not Almighty God shows that JWs worship one God, unlike trinitarians.
You missed some points to answer;
1. The Father - is He worthy to be worship?
2. Jesus - true god, not the true God per your reply, Is He worthy to be worship or not?
3. We agree with this.

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Capbook wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:11 am
onewithhim wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:44 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:10 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 11:49 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:58 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:03 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:35 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:14 pm
NO. What is your point?
You said angels are spirits same as God. Yes.
You said angels are in the form of God. Though no verse that said so but you don't worship.
Jesus as in the form of God. But why worship Jesus? Not the angels.
How do you explain Jesus position, is He below the level of angels? If yes or no, kindly explain.
Is Jesus level above the angels? If yes, explain what He is then.
I don't worship Jesus the same as I worship Jehovah, the Father. Jehovah is the only God Almighty, above everything else in the universe that He created through His Son. We highly respect and honor Jesus, which is a form of worship, for what he's done in not only creating everything, but dying an ignominious death for the world. He is above every angel.
Thanks, as He is above angels, what Jesus is? A true God or a false God?
He is subordinate to the Father who is God Almighty. To call Jesus a "god" is to say that we honor him highly as a powerful individual. That is what "god" meant to the Greeks of the apostles' day. Judges and people in high political positions were "worshipped" as gods.
Following your interpretation, would you mind answering the following;
1. The Father - one true God, worth to be worship? Yes or no.
2. Jesus - a true god worth to be worship of a false god worth to be worship?
3. Zeus - a true or false god?
It is not my "interpretation." To know a little bit of Greek history would apprise you of the fact that "god" meant a person in a position of power and authority, and they were "worshipped" as gods.

1. The Father = Yes, the one true God.
2. Jesus = a person of power and authority, a true god, not THE true God. The true God GAVE Jesus Jesus' authority and power.
Zeus = a false god and not worthy of any worship.
A "true God" and a" true god" as not of the same state of being God, I believe is not monotheism.
Is that the theology of JWs?
I just explained to you why we call Jesus "a god." There is only ONE Almighty God, the Father. There are other gods worshipped that are all false. Jesus is not Almighty God but he is a powerful, influential, revered individual. To say that he is not Almighty God shows that JWs worship one God, unlike trinitarians.
You missed some points to answer;
1. The Father - is He worthy to be worship?
2. Jesus - true god, not the true God per your reply, Is He worthy to be worship or not?
3. We agree with this.
1. The Father is worthy to be worshipped as the Most High, God Almighty, the only one.
2. Jesus is not worthy to be worshipped as God Almighty. Yet he is a beautiful, powerful, influential, revered individual---what the Greeks would call "a god."
3. We agree with what?

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onewithhim wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:27 pm
Capbook wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:11 am
onewithhim wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:44 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:10 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 11:49 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:58 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:03 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:35 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:11 pm

You said angels are spirits same as God. Yes.
You said angels are in the form of God. Though no verse that said so but you don't worship.
Jesus as in the form of God. But why worship Jesus? Not the angels.
How do you explain Jesus position, is He below the level of angels? If yes or no, kindly explain.
Is Jesus level above the angels? If yes, explain what He is then.
I don't worship Jesus the same as I worship Jehovah, the Father. Jehovah is the only God Almighty, above everything else in the universe that He created through His Son. We highly respect and honor Jesus, which is a form of worship, for what he's done in not only creating everything, but dying an ignominious death for the world. He is above every angel.
Thanks, as He is above angels, what Jesus is? A true God or a false God?
He is subordinate to the Father who is God Almighty. To call Jesus a "god" is to say that we honor him highly as a powerful individual. That is what "god" meant to the Greeks of the apostles' day. Judges and people in high political positions were "worshipped" as gods.
Following your interpretation, would you mind answering the following;
1. The Father - one true God, worth to be worship? Yes or no.
2. Jesus - a true god worth to be worship of a false god worth to be worship?
3. Zeus - a true or false god?
It is not my "interpretation." To know a little bit of Greek history would apprise you of the fact that "god" meant a person in a position of power and authority, and they were "worshipped" as gods.

1. The Father = Yes, the one true God.
2. Jesus = a person of power and authority, a true god, not THE true God. The true God GAVE Jesus Jesus' authority and power.
Zeus = a false god and not worthy of any worship.
A "true God" and a" true god" as not of the same state of being God, I believe is not monotheism.
Is that the theology of JWs?
I just explained to you why we call Jesus "a god." There is only ONE Almighty God, the Father. There are other gods worshipped that are all false. Jesus is not Almighty God but he is a powerful, influential, revered individual. To say that he is not Almighty God shows that JWs worship one God, unlike trinitarians.
You missed some points to answer;
1. The Father - is He worthy to be worship?
2. Jesus - true god, not the true God per your reply, Is He worthy to be worship or not?
3. We agree with this.
1. The Father is worthy to be worshipped as the Most High, God Almighty, the only one.
2. Jesus is not worthy to be worshipped as God Almighty. Yet he is a beautiful, powerful, influential, revered individual---what the Greeks would call "a god."
3. We agree with what?
1. We agree, the Father worthy to be worshiped. (John 4:24) Greek is "proskuneo"
2. Jesus and the Father was being worshiped together by all created things on the earth, etc. Do you believe this text or not? (Rev 5:13-14) Greek is "proskuneo")
3. We agree that false god not worthy to be worshiped.

Rev 5:13 And I heard every created thing which is in heaven, or on the earth, or under the earth, or on the sea, and all the things in them, saying, “To Him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be the blessing, the honor, the glory, and the dominion forever and ever.”
Rev 5:14 And the four living creatures were saying, “Amen.” And the elders fell down and worshiped.

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Re: Book Of Life ( Who Writes The Names)

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I don't worship Jesus the same as I worship Jehovah, the Father. Jehovah is the only God Almighty, above everything else in the universe that He created through His Son. We highly respect and honor Jesus, which is a form of worship, for what he's done in not only creating everything, but dying an ignominious death for the world. He is above every angel.
Thanks, as He is above angels, what Jesus is? A true God or a false God?
He is subordinate to the Father who is God Almighty. To call Jesus a "god" is to say that we honor him highly as a powerful individual. That is what "god" meant to the Greeks of the apostles' day. Judges and people in high political positions were "worshipped" as gods.
Following your interpretation, would you mind answering the following;
1. The Father - one true God, worth to be worship? Yes or no.
2. Jesus - a true god worth to be worship of a false god worth to be worship?
3. Zeus - a true or false god?
It is not my "interpretation." To know a little bit of Greek history would apprise you of the fact that "god" meant a person in a position of power and authority, and they were "worshipped" as gods.

1. The Father = Yes, the one true God.
2. Jesus = a person of power and authority, a true god, not THE true God. The true God GAVE Jesus Jesus' authority and power.
Zeus = a false god and not worthy of any worship.
A "true God" and a" true god" as not of the same state of being God, I believe is not monotheism.
Is that the theology of JWs?
I just explained to you why we call Jesus "a god." There is only ONE Almighty God, the Father. There are other gods worshipped that are all false. Jesus is not Almighty God but he is a powerful, influential, revered individual. To say that he is not Almighty God shows that JWs worship one God, unlike trinitarians.
You missed some points to answer;
1. The Father - is He worthy to be worship?
2. Jesus - true god, not the true God per your reply, Is He worthy to be worship or not?
3. We agree with this.
1. The Father is worthy to be worshipped as the Most High, God Almighty, the only one.
2. Jesus is not worthy to be worshipped as God Almighty. Yet he is a beautiful, powerful, influential, revered individual---what the Greeks would call "a god."
3. We agree with what?
1. We agree, the Father worthy to be worshiped. (John 4:24) Greek is "proskuneo"
2. Jesus and the Father was being worshiped together by all created things on the earth, etc. Do you believe this text or not? (Rev 5:13-14) Greek is "proskuneo")
3. We agree that false god not worthy to be worshiped.

Rev 5:13 And I heard every created thing which is in heaven, or on the earth, or under the earth, or on the sea, and all the things in them, saying, “To Him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be the blessing, the honor, the glory, and the dominion forever and ever.”
Rev 5:14 And the four living creatures were saying, “Amen.” And the elders fell down and worshiped.
2. It doesn't indicate that Jesus and the Father are equal. That is your opinion, based on the mere fact that they are together and deserve respect as to their positions and authority. The Father is worthy to be worshipped as God Almighty, and the Son is worthy to be worshipped as the right-hand man of the Father, the second in command, given that position by his Father. They are not equal. The Father is superior, as the rest of the Bible tells us, including Jesus himself. (John 17:3; John 14:28)

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