The Delay of the End

[Skeptical]

Hello all. Even though I am skeptical, at the same time, I am saddened and distressed by the many horrific and terrible things that we see go on around us in the world. Therefore, as a skeptic, I still do think about things such as the last days the end times. Therefore, as far as how things just keep going on and on and on, I understand that some Christians apply Habakkuk 2:3 to the situation. So, I would like to know from any type of theist, if they think that Habakkuk 2:3 is being used properly to understand this delayed situation? And the reason why I ask is because that verse seems to be able to justify any type of delay, postponement, or unfulfillment of any type of end time expectation.

New International Version
For the revelation awaits an appointed time; it speaks of the end and will not prove false. Though it linger, wait for it; it will certainly come and will not delay.

https://biblehub.com/habakkuk/2-3.htm

[myth-one.com]

Interesting stuff, 3CPO, but why not save it for another topic? Also, I would like to know whether or not Adam and Eve, the people who died in Noah's flood, the people who died in Sodom and Gomorrah, Judas Iscariot, and the scribes and the Pharisee who Jesus said sinned against or blasphemed the holy spirit are going to be resurrected,. . .

Yes, every human who ever died will be resurrected.

. . . but not now.

Say when.

You can start a new thread anytime that you want to.

Thanks, buy I have no desire to start a new thread,

I just started a spin-off thread from another thread this evening.

Good for you. Enjoy.

[Skeptical]

Interesting stuff, 3CPO, but why not save it for another topic? Also, I would like to know whether or not Adam and Eve, the people who died in Noah's flood, the people who died in Sodom and Gomorrah, Judas Iscariot, and the scribes and the Pharisee who Jesus said sinned against or blasphemed the holy spirit are going to be resurrected,. . .

Yes, every human who ever died will be resurrected.

. . . but not now.

Say when.

You can start a new thread anytime that you want to.

Thanks, buy I have no desire to start a new thread,

That's too bad because it sounded like a good topic for debate.

[myth-one.com]

Interesting stuff, 3CPO, but why not save it for another topic? Also, I would like to know whether or not Adam and Eve, the people who died in Noah's flood, the people who died in Sodom and Gomorrah, Judas Iscariot, and the scribes and the Pharisee who Jesus said sinned against or blasphemed the holy spirit are going to be resurrected,. . .

Yes, every human who ever died will be resurrected.

. . . but not now.

Say when.

You can start a new thread anytime that you want to.

Thanks, buy I have no desire to start a new thread,

That's too bad because it sounded like a good topic for debate.

You can start a new thread anytime that you want to.

[MatijaSever]

Hello all. Even though I am skeptical, at the same time, I am saddened and distressed by the many horrific and terrible things that we see go on around us in the world. Therefore, as a skeptic, I still do think about things such as the last days the end times. Therefore, as far as how things just keep going on and on and on, I understand that some Christians apply Habakkuk 2:3 to the situation. So, I would like to know from any type of theist, if they think that Habakkuk 2:3 is being used properly to understand this delayed situation? And the reason why I ask is because that verse seems to be able to justify any type of delay, postponement, or unfulfillment of any type of end time expectation.

New International Version
For the revelation awaits an appointed time; it speaks of the end and will not prove false. Though it linger, wait for it; it will certainly come and will not delay.

https://biblehub.com/habakkuk/2-3.htm

The end might seem to linger to people who are anxiously awaiting it, but God has a set time where He will bring about the big changes and it really is not "late."

"Let this one fact not be escaping your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. Jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance." (2Peter 3:8,9)

That's a great reminder that God's timing is perfect. We may not understand why He does things when He does, but we can trust in His plan and be confident that everything will work out in the end. Thanks for sharing!

[Miles]

That's a great reminder that God's timing is perfect. We may not understand why He does things when He does, but we can trust in His plan and be confident that everything will work out in the end. Thanks for sharing!

Why? He's made mistakes before so who's to say this remark of his is not just another mistake? Nobody can, because once one has become a mistake-maker there's always the possibility that there'll be another mistake right around the corner, and maybe this is one of those times.

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[myth-one.com]

That's a great reminder that God's timing is perfect. We may not understand why He does things when He does, but we can trust in His plan and be confident that everything will work out in the end. Thanks for sharing!

Why? He's made mistakes before so who's to say this remark of his is not just another mistake? Nobody can, because once one has become a mistake-maker there's always the possibility that there'll be another mistake right around the corner, and maybe this is one of those times.

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When did God make a mistake?

[Miles]

[myth-one.com]

When did God make a mistake?

TO NOTE:
When one repents, regrets, grieves, is remorseful or sorry for what they did, that act (doing) would have been a mistake: Something they should not have done.

If something is made the best most perfect way to fulfill a specified project or goal, then it cannot be called a mistake if it stumbles due to the fault of others along the way.

Mankind is a good example. We were created to eventually replace the angels who left their first estate (the earth).

Man is presently here to learn that the best way to do things is God's way. We learn that by trying our way and failing. God may get remorseful and sorrowful at our frequent failings along the way, but the final product will be angels who are less likely to revolt.

One of the world's wisest men after a lifetime of seeking treasure, women, and whatever appeared to bring him pleasure; reached this final conclusion of the whole matter of life:

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. (Ecclesiastes 12:13)

[Miles]

When did God make a mistake?

TO NOTE:
When one repents, regrets, grieves, is remorseful or sorry for what they did, that act (doing) would have been a mistake: Something they should not have done.

If something is made the best most perfect way to fulfill a specified project or goal, then it cannot be called a mistake if it stumbles due to the fault of others along the way.

That's one gigantic If, because, as it stands, this isn't the case at all. For instance, god's intention to create perfect humans failed to fulfill such a goal, an outcome that made him sorry, repentant, and regretful for trying. "The Lord was sorry he had made human beings on the earth. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth. And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth." Creating A&E was a mistake. Wanting humans to populate Earth, god should have done something different. Maybe putting Satan in solitary confinement for all eternity (being omnipotent god could have done this), or perhaps endowing A&E with better awareness insight, intellect, intuition, judgment, shrewdness, vision, wisdom, acumen, perception, quickness, and understanding. OR, maybe god would have been better off not having created A&E at all. As god would likely put it, "creating A&E was one of my all-time blunders. It made me sorry, repentant, and regretful for even trying." A blunder being a mistake.

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[myth-one.com]

When did God make a mistake?

TO NOTE:
When one repents, regrets, grieves, is remorseful or sorry for what they did, that act (doing) would have been a mistake: Something they should not have done.

If something is made the best most perfect way to fulfill a specified project or goal, then it cannot be called a mistake if it stumbles due to the fault of others along the way.

That's one gigantic If, because, as it stands, this isn't the case at all. For instance, god's intention to create perfect humans failed to fulfill such a goal, an outcome that made him sorry, repentant, and regretful for trying. "The Lord was sorry he had made human beings on the earth. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth. And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth." Creating A&E was a mistake. Wanting humans to populate Earth, god should have done something different. Maybe putting Satan in solitary confinement for all eternity (being omnipotent god could have done this), or perhaps endowing A&E with better awareness insight, intellect, intuition, judgment, shrewdness, vision, wisdom, acumen, perception, quickness, and understanding. OR, maybe god would have been better off not having created A&E at all. As god would likely put it, "creating A&E was one of my all-time blunders. It made me sorry, repentant, and regretful for even trying." A blunder being a mistake.

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Actually, God admitted that every thing He made was "very good," not perfect:


And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:31)