Christians and Guns

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[Clownboat]

Not true, CB.

Felons are not allowed to get, own or possess guns in America.

Or can you think of an example of a person being unable to pick up a gun?

Total paralysis comes to mind.

Even very nasty villains can get guns......no problem!

Correct, being a villain does not prevent a person from getting a gun in America. Did someone make this argument?

America is flooded, awash with guns.

Yup, but there is no process in America to allow anyone.........anybody to get a gun and this is what I was addressing.

Someone that eggs their neighbors mailbox would be guilty of a felony and they would no longer be able to get or own a gun.
Someone that messes with their friends Facebook page could be guilty of a felony and they would no longer be able to get or own a gun.
Someone that fails to report their food service tips would be guilty...

The claim that "Anybody can get a gun in America.......anybody" is therefore not accurate and is as meaningful as this one: "Anyone can rob a bank (or eat small children) in America..........anybody!"

[Clownboat]

Christianity around here is about love and understanding.

This does not address gun ownership though. A person can both own a gun and be loving or understanding.

I'm amazed by so many US Christians who hold bible in one hand and AR15 in the other.

Yes, you are amazed by this, but it also doesn't address owning guns as being unchristian.

I haven't failed with you, CB, I never set out to try and teach you anything.

Too bad, as I'm willing to learn.
You don't like having your claims challenged do you? It's a great opportunity to amend or sharpen ones thinking IMO and prevents similar future mistakes. I have learned much from being challenged here myself.

[oldbadger]

Felons are not allowed to get, own or possess guns in America.

,..........and...........

Correct, being a villain does not prevent a person from getting a gun in America. Did someone make this argument?

Ha ha ha.......!

[Clownboat]

Felons are not allowed to get, own or possess guns in America.

,..........and...........

Correct, being a villain does not prevent a person from getting a gun in America. Did someone make this argument?

Ha ha ha.......!

I don't see the humor. Surely you now understand that a felon cannot possess a gun in America, but a person whose evil actions or motives that are important to the plot of a show or movie can. Perhaps villain means something else to you? Care to elucidate?

What is the true meaning of a villain?
1. : a character in a story or play who opposes the hero. (Common usage)
2. : a deliberate scoundrel or criminal. (Less common, but still not a felon)

It just occurred to me that you are likely confusing 'felon' with 'villain'.
Copy/paste: "Ha ha ha.......!" Indeed!

[Wootah]

[oldbadger]

I don't see the humor. Surely you now understand that a felon cannot possess a gun in America, but a person whose evil actions or motives that are important to the plot of a show or movie can. Perhaps villain means something else to you? Care to elucidate?

What is the true meaning of a villain?
1. : a character in a story or play who opposes the hero. (Common usage)
2. : a deliberate scoundrel or criminal. (Less common, but still not a felon)

It just occurred to me that you are likely confusing 'felon' with 'villain'.
Copy/paste: "Ha ha ha.......!" Indeed!

More waffle from CB......
So you're trying to tell me that a previously violent offender cannot get a gun in the US?

Anybody can get a gun on the US! The place is awash with them.

[Clownboat]

More waffle from CB......

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. - Socrates.

So you're trying to tell me that a previously violent offender cannot get a gun in the US?

Nope, I educated you on your incorrect statement where you claimed that anyone can get a gun in America............ anyone! Did you not read the felon examples I provided for your education?

You have been corrected, but it is up to you if you will correct your thinking. To be clear, I correct your falsehoods for the readers sake as you seem immune to correction in regards to US gun laws and who can and cannot posses a firearm in the US.

Anybody can get a gun on the US! The place is awash with them.

And this is why I address the readers...
The US has lots of guns, this oldbadger is correct about and no one is arguing anything different. Not anybody can get one though, on this oldbadger remains mistaken. The claim that a felon cannot get or posses a firearm is a claim that can be challenged. Now ask yourselves why the claim made is not being challenged and instead I'm being accused of waffling.

[oldbadger]

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. - Socrates.

So you need to be more careful in fure, CB.

Nope, I educated you on your incorrect statement where you claimed that anyone can get a gun in America............ anyone! Did you not read the felon examples I provided for your education?

Again.......... anybody, including felons, can get a gun in America.
How else do you think that so many villains have guns?

And this is why I address the readers...

Not on a post to me, please.
Talking about me to the readership in the third person is offensive.

[Clownboat]

Again.......... anybody, including felons, can get a gun in America.
How else do you think that so many villains have guns?

Please walk us through this.
The waitress, that didn't report her tips and has been convicted. Where can she get her gun in America?

[oldbadger]

Again.......... anybody, including felons, can get a gun in America.
How else do you think that so many villains have guns?

Please walk us through this.
The waitress, that didn't report her tips and has been convicted. Where can she get her gun in America?

Have you ever heard of the black market?