Yes it really is good news, the coming of Gods kingdom rule to all creation. Only the wicked fear its arrival.
Jesus will lead Gods armies to the earth and bring that kingdom rule with him. Satan will be captured and abyssed for 1000 years. During that time, the earth will be transformed into an Eden(paradise)--mankind will go back to perfection, never sick, never without, not aging like now. No more- war, hatred, fear, abuse, sickness, disease, afflictions like blindness, etc) no cheating on mates, drunkeness, drug addiction, no false god worship, Gods kingdom rule will be a cure all. Even dead love ones resurrected and some given a chance to learn and apply Gods will. But then satan is loosed for a little while to test the resurrected ones, many( Gog of Magog- will fall as the sands of the sea( rev 20:8) the bible says. Then satan and all who were mislead by him will be destroyed forever in the lake of fire. And death will be no more, neither will mourning, outcries or pain. Gods kingdom rule in full control forever, all motives of mortal hearts out of love, not profit. Perfect harmony from all of Gods creatures( Isaiah 11)--- Eternal life of happiness. This will be on earth.( Matt 5:5, Psalm 37:29)
Will you live for entrance into that kingdom now?
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Post #61Good News? I'm an atheist, why is this good news for me?
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Post #62tam wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:45 am Peace to you,
Thank you. It just wasn't clear that this is the part of my post to which you were responding.kjw47 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:50 pmtam wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:38 pm Peace to you,
Sorry, is this your response to my question: May I ask, what do you think it means to seek God's righteousness?kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:35 pmtam wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:36 pm Peace to you,
Perhaps this is a language issue?kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:04 pmtam wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:22 pm [Replying to kjw47 in post #1]
The good news of God's Kingdom is Christ.
Through Christ, we can be reconciled to God (even be invited into the new Covenant with God). Through Christ - the Tree of Life from whom we must eat in order to live forever - we have life in us, even eternal life. Through Christ, we have forgiveness of sins and through Christ, we are saved from Death. We are even invited to be part of the New Covenant (through Christ, the mediator of the new covenant). We can even know God Himself - even become SONS of God, Himself.
Do you see?
Christ - whose name is Jaheshua (meaning JAH saves) - is himself the Good News (Gospel) of the Kingdom.
A paradise on earth is one good thing to come as a result, but without Christ, we would have none of it! If Christ had not given His life as a ransom for us, we would still be in slavery/subjection to death. Our focus - our eyes, our heart, our ears - is meant to be upon Christ, who is the LIFE, the King of all God's Kingdom, the beloved Son and Chosen One of JAH.
Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Focus to be on his example he set for all, and learning and applying all he taught. That is the way and truth and if one does both of those things they will get life. The following proves our focus to be on the Father--I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me---The Father is ones destination to accomplish this-John 4:22-24--As well Jesus teaches--Matt 6:33- Keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHWH(Jehovah) Father) righteousness and all these things will be added(sustenance, covering, spirituality)--see Jesus did not teach to seek his righteousness-he teaches to seek his God and Fathers righteousness.
Our eyes are to be upon Christ:
Let us fix our eyes on [Jesus], the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. Hebrews 12:2
Christ is the One to whom the Father said to listen - and so also our ears are to be upon Christ, who is the Word of God, and through whom God speaks to us):
A voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is my Son, whom I have chosen; listen to him.” Luke 9:35 (See also John 10:27; Rev 3:20 - noting that His sheep listen to His - Christ's - voice.)
Also our hearts:
“If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him." John 14:23 (see also John 14:21; 15:10).
If we see Christ, then we see His Father also. If we know Christ, then we know His Father also.
It is Christ Himself who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. He is the Way (to the Father - no one comes to the Father EXCEPT through Him); He is the Truth (including being God's truth; and He shows us the Father as the Father truly is); and He is the Life.
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May I ask, what do you think it means to seek God's righteousness?
Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Matt 6:33-Matt 7:21-- John 4:22-24--and learn and apply-EVERY utterance from God as Jesus said man must live by them.
I showed you--Matt 6:33--Seeking the kingdom first over self--Matt 7:21--Living to do the Fathers will over self--John 4:22-24 worshipping the Father in spirit and truth, Just like Jesus does.
I understand seeking God's righteousness a bit different than you have described... in that seeking His righteousness means to seek that God IS righteous in all that He says and does. This would be the opposite of what Adam did in the Garden of Eden when Adam blamed God for his actions ('the woman YOU put here with me...") In that case, Adam sought his own righteousness instead of repenting and seeking God's righteousness. Or as another example, if someone misunderstood or taught something false (or listened to false teachers) and then blamed it on God - this would be them seeking their own righteousness rather than seeking God's righteousness.
Or when some people say that God was at fault for the flood, instead of seeking His righteousness in that act: to save life, to prevent a much more terrible fate for the rest of humanity to come, to protect His children, etc.
Seek HIS righteousness (and all other things will be added to you.)
Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
The true God=YHWH(Jehovah) not the non existent trinity.
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Post #63Peace to you,
Peace again.
Why are you saying this to me? It has nothing to do with anything we are talking about. I told you previously that I am not a trinitarian, so you cannot use that as an excuse to dismiss anything in my posts.kjw47 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:43 pmtam wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:45 am Peace to you,
Thank you. It just wasn't clear that this is the part of my post to which you were responding.kjw47 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:50 pmtam wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:38 pm Peace to you,
Sorry, is this your response to my question: May I ask, what do you think it means to seek God's righteousness?kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:35 pmtam wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:36 pm Peace to you,
Perhaps this is a language issue?kjw47 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:04 pmtam wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:22 pm [Replying to kjw47 in post #1]
The good news of God's Kingdom is Christ.
Through Christ, we can be reconciled to God (even be invited into the new Covenant with God). Through Christ - the Tree of Life from whom we must eat in order to live forever - we have life in us, even eternal life. Through Christ, we have forgiveness of sins and through Christ, we are saved from Death. We are even invited to be part of the New Covenant (through Christ, the mediator of the new covenant). We can even know God Himself - even become SONS of God, Himself.
Do you see?
Christ - whose name is Jaheshua (meaning JAH saves) - is himself the Good News (Gospel) of the Kingdom.
A paradise on earth is one good thing to come as a result, but without Christ, we would have none of it! If Christ had not given His life as a ransom for us, we would still be in slavery/subjection to death. Our focus - our eyes, our heart, our ears - is meant to be upon Christ, who is the LIFE, the King of all God's Kingdom, the beloved Son and Chosen One of JAH.
Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Focus to be on his example he set for all, and learning and applying all he taught. That is the way and truth and if one does both of those things they will get life. The following proves our focus to be on the Father--I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me---The Father is ones destination to accomplish this-John 4:22-24--As well Jesus teaches--Matt 6:33- Keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHWH(Jehovah) Father) righteousness and all these things will be added(sustenance, covering, spirituality)--see Jesus did not teach to seek his righteousness-he teaches to seek his God and Fathers righteousness.
Our eyes are to be upon Christ:
Let us fix our eyes on [Jesus], the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. Hebrews 12:2
Christ is the One to whom the Father said to listen - and so also our ears are to be upon Christ, who is the Word of God, and through whom God speaks to us):
A voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is my Son, whom I have chosen; listen to him.” Luke 9:35 (See also John 10:27; Rev 3:20 - noting that His sheep listen to His - Christ's - voice.)
Also our hearts:
“If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him." John 14:23 (see also John 14:21; 15:10).
If we see Christ, then we see His Father also. If we know Christ, then we know His Father also.
It is Christ Himself who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. He is the Way (to the Father - no one comes to the Father EXCEPT through Him); He is the Truth (including being God's truth; and He shows us the Father as the Father truly is); and He is the Life.
**
May I ask, what do you think it means to seek God's righteousness?
Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Matt 6:33-Matt 7:21-- John 4:22-24--and learn and apply-EVERY utterance from God as Jesus said man must live by them.
I showed you--Matt 6:33--Seeking the kingdom first over self--Matt 7:21--Living to do the Fathers will over self--John 4:22-24 worshipping the Father in spirit and truth, Just like Jesus does.
I understand seeking God's righteousness a bit different than you have described... in that seeking His righteousness means to seek that God IS righteous in all that He says and does. This would be the opposite of what Adam did in the Garden of Eden when Adam blamed God for his actions ('the woman YOU put here with me...") In that case, Adam sought his own righteousness instead of repenting and seeking God's righteousness. Or as another example, if someone misunderstood or taught something false (or listened to false teachers) and then blamed it on God - this would be them seeking their own righteousness rather than seeking God's righteousness.
Or when some people say that God was at fault for the flood, instead of seeking His righteousness in that act: to save life, to prevent a much more terrible fate for the rest of humanity to come, to protect His children, etc.
Seek HIS righteousness (and all other things will be added to you.)
Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
The true God=YHWH(Jehovah) not the non existent trinity.
Peace again.
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Post #64As someone that used to be atheist, the only good news is that there is no Hellfire and death is eternal. Which they are already except...so I guess there is nothing for atheist.boatsnguitars wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:54 pm Good News? I'm an atheist, why is this good news for me?
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Post #65So, its not Good News then, is it? But, what do Christians care? They saved their own skin, what do they care as they bask in eternity knowing trillions of souls suffer, right?2timothy316 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:24 pmAs someone that used to be atheist, the only good news is that there is no Hellfire and death is eternal. Which they are already except...so I guess there is nothing for atheist.boatsnguitars wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:54 pm Good News? I'm an atheist, why is this good news for me?
Or, will you light a candle for us once a month? Will you implore God to stop the burning - or, does he like the smell of burning flesh - and you, too?
What a religion! To revel for eternity in the suffering of others!
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A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew
God gave a secret, and denied it me?
Well, well—what matters it? Believe that, too!”
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A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew
God gave a secret, and denied it me?
Well, well—what matters it? Believe that, too!”
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Post #66Peace to you,
[Replying to boatsnguitars in post #65]
I believe timothy said there is NO hellfire (which is correct). Meaning... no eternal torment.
Peace again.
[Replying to boatsnguitars in post #65]
I believe timothy said there is NO hellfire (which is correct). Meaning... no eternal torment.
Peace again.
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Post #67There's no hellfire? Can you please confirm this, as I'm not sure timothy is the proper official to confirm or deny this - or does he have knowledge the rest of us don't?tam wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:33 am Peace to you,
[Replying to boatsnguitars in post #65]
I believe timothy said there is NO hellfire (which is correct). Meaning... no eternal torment.
Peace again.
Just a simple confirmation would be great, but a signed document from your boss would be better.
In the meantime, I will just pretend I never heard this "Good News".
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A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew
God gave a secret, and denied it me?
Well, well—what matters it? Believe that, too!”
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Post #68Where does Timothy say there is no hellfire? Scripture please.
Tam, I don’t read long posts I don’t have time to wade through them.
”For unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins.” (John 8:24
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Post #69There are many threads on this subject. Since you're new and might not know how to search this site here is at least one thread on the subject. Perhaps you can catch up and add to an existing thread.boatsnguitars wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:28 amThere's no hellfire? Can you please confirm this, as I'm not sure timothy is the proper official to confirm or deny this - or does he have knowledge the rest of us don't?tam wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:33 am Peace to you,
[Replying to boatsnguitars in post #65]
I believe timothy said there is NO hellfire (which is correct). Meaning... no eternal torment.
Peace again.
Just a simple confirmation would be great, but a signed document from your boss would be better.
In the meantime, I will just pretend I never heard this "Good News".
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Post #70Here is a thread on the subject that was posted long ago, you're new here and many of the things you ask about have been discussed over and over...but I'm sure it will surpass your reading limit. But here you go anyway.MissKate13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:09 amWhere does Timothy say there is no hellfire? Scripture please.
Tam, I don’t read long posts I don’t have time to wade through them.
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