American Christian Soul Union.

[jcrawford]

I have written the following flyer to hand out to students at public schools, and was wondering if anyone would like to post comments or enquiries.

AMERICAN CHRISTIAN SOUL UNION


Christians know more about their own souls, minds, thoughts, ideas, beliefs feelings and behavior than any secular educator, psychologist or psychiatrist working for the public schools does. Christian churches, the Bible and therapeutic textbooks based on it provide all of the mental health treatment facilities and resources necessary to satisfy the spiritual and mental health requirements of maintaining a sound Christian mind, body and soul.

Christian students and teachers in public schools must be informed of their legal right to obtain Christian and legal counseling before being psychologically quizzed, tested, interrogated or psychologically abused by any public school educators, psychologists or psychological counselors. Christian students and teachers have the right to remain silent in the face of any psychological investigation or examination of their person, on the grounds that anything they say may be psychologically, medically and legally used against them in a court of law.

Christians in public schools also have the right to obtain a second opinion regarding any psychological diagnosis or evaluation which is made of them by employees, agents or representatives of a public school, with or without permission, and to sue public schools for any violation of their civil rights as well as for any psychological and medical malpractice perpetrated by employees, agents and representatives of a public school system.

Besides being of obvious Christian concern, I see the unsupervised psychological labeling and drugging of millions of public school students as a political and cultural issue, as well a psychological threat to the successful education and careers of American school-children.

Question for discussion and debate is whether or not you think that Christians have any right to resist the secular practice of conducting unsupervised psychological investigations and examinations on the students or staff which may result in the psychological labeling and drugging of Christian teachers and students without their advised consent and with no recourse to legal or Christian representation in such serious matters regarding the mental health of their Christian minds and souls.

[jcrawford]

And, what ARE your credintals to be a 'Christian' mental health professional?

I profess faith in the mental healing power and mind-altering soteriology of Jesus Christ.

Mind altering. OOOOOOO KAY.,

If you are offering these services as part of the medical profession., I would not be surprised if what you are doing is illegal.

I am neither a medical doctor nor a psychologist.

Christian Mental Science is a religious practice.

[jcrawford]

If you are offering these services as part of the medical profession., I would not be surprised if what you are doing is illegal.

And utterly without merit as well, I'd wager. They had a word for people like that back in the old days: charlatan.

As a modern metaphysician reconstructing the old Christian practice of the cure of souls, I consider secular psychologists and psychiatrists who discriminate and are prejudiced against Christian Mental Health Scientists, to be modern day charlatans.

[Katsuro]

jcrawford wrote:

I am neither a medical doctor nor a psychologist.

Christian Mental Science is a religious practice.

So you have no qualifications or training at all in mental health? Other than being Christian which I hardly think is adequate. How you can you justify offering such services to children (or anyone for that matter) when you are not a psychologist or anything of the kind?! Any form of science, mental or otherwise should not be a religious practice it should be a scientific practice. Church services are a religious practice, not mental health sciences. Being Christian gives you no qualifications nor the right of any kind to do anything like this. If you are not a psychologist then I can only imagine this will cause more harm than good.

Essentially you are urging kids to ignore what trained, licensed professionals (people who know the subject) are telling them and instead seek the services of unqualified, unlicensed Christians whose only "qualification" for the job seems to be they believe in God. I'm sorry but that is plain wrong. If I had kids I'd want them to be seen by trained, licensed (and therefore regulated) professionals. They can be Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Teapot-ists I don't care, as long as they are ACTUAL psychologists their religion etc means nothing to me. I just don't like the idea of them being seen by some random bloke.

Christian Mental Science is a bit of an oxymoron anyway.

I'm an atheist, perhaps I should start my own laser eye surgery practice!

jcrawford wrote:

I consider secular psychologists and psychiatrists who discriminate and are prejudiced against Christian Mental Health Scientists, to be modern day charlatans.

So the charlatans are the qualified, licensed professionals with years of experience, not the random unqualified Christian Mental Scientists then? And you know why they discriminate against Christian Mental Health Scientists? Because its a load of bull that's why. Same reason doctors have the same opinion of many alternative therapies. There should be no such thing as Christian Mental Science. In medicine and other sciences religion should not be a factor, it should be irrelevant. You talk about discriminating - you practice Christian Mental Science, what about all the Jews, Muslims and other non-christians? What about the non-Christian kids who want help but don't want Christianity involved?

[jcrawford]

jcrawford wrote:

I am neither a medical doctor nor a psychologist.

Christian Mental Science is a religious practice.

So you have no qualifications or training at all in mental health? Other than being Christian which I hardly think is adequate.

Becoming a Christian is the first step towards sound mental health. Having acheived that status, Christians may go on to establish adequate mental health practices and treatments for themselves and other Christians by studying the pseudoscience and application of mere psychological techniques and fraudulent abuses of psychiatry, and then applying concepts of Christian Mental Reconstruction to their own lives and the lives of other Christians.

How you can you justify offering such services to children (or anyone for that matter) when you are not a psychologist or anything of the kind?!

Christian Mental Science is metaphysical and theological, not psycho-logical since psychology is a humanist invention and perverts Christian minds.

Any form of science, mental or otherwise should not be a religious practice it should be a scientific practice.

That bigoted and prejudicial veiwpoint is discriminatory.

Church services are a religious practice, not mental health sciences.

The cure of souls is a Christian Mental Health practice.

Being Christian gives you no qualifications nor the right of any kind to do anything like this.

Christians have the same right to practice Christian Mental Health as secular humanists have to practice secular and humanist systems of mental health.

http://psychrights.org/index.htm

http://www.mindfreedom.org/affspo/act/u ... nsor-group

If you are not a psychologist then I can only imagine this will cause more harm than good.

Secular and humanist psychologists cause Christians more mental harm and damage than Christian counselors and spiritual guides ever could in their mental health teachings and practices regarding the cure of souls.

[jcrawford]

Essentially you are urging kids to ignore what trained, licensed professionals (people who know the subject) are telling them and instead seek the services of unqualified, unlicensed Christians whose only "qualification" for the job seems to be they believe in God. I'm sorry but that is plain wrong. If I had kids I'd want them to be seen by trained, licensed (and therefore regulated) professionals. They can be Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Teapot-ists I don't care, as long as they are ACTUAL psychologists their religion etc means nothing to me. I just don't like the idea of them being seen by some random bloke.

Seeing how you do not have children and list yourself as an atheist, you are not qualified to tell Christians how to raise their children or what form of medical or mental health treatment is good for them or not.

Christian Mental Science is a bit of an oxymoron anyway.

So is atheistic and secular psychiatry since 'psychiatry' means doctor of the soul.

I'm an atheist, perhaps I should start my own laser eye surgery practice!

Start anything you want, but if it harms Christians, be prepared to get sued.

So the charlatans are the qualified, licensed professionals with years of experience, not the random unqualified Christian Mental Scientists then?

State-certified psycho-logical psychiatrists are not competent to diagnose mental conditions such as ADHD in Christians, since there is no evidence of any neurological malfunction in Christians so diagnosed.

And you know why they discriminate against Christian Mental Health Scientists? Because its a load of bull that's why.

Coercive psychiatry against Christians is a load of bull when competent neurologists dispute fraudulent psychiatric diagnoses.

There should be no such thing as Christian Mental Science.

There should be no such thing as state-sponsored coercive psychiatry since Dr. Thomas Szasz has shown it to be a modern form of the Spanish Inquisition.

In medicine and other sciences religion should not be a factor, it should be irrelevant.

Atheism, humanism and secularism are irrelevent when it comes to applying sound regious and scientific practices to everyday life.

You talk about discriminating - you practice Christian Mental Science, what about all the Jews, Muslims and other non-christians?

Jews, Muslims and Hindus have their own form of mental health techniques and practices. Other non-christians can always go to atheistic, humanist and secular quacks.

What about the non-Christian kids who want help but don't want Christianity involved?

Same as above. I have my hands full.