Is God done with the Jews?

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Exodus 3:2, “The angel of the LORD appeared unto (Moses) in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.” And so, Israel a bush burned with fire, yet not consumed. The chosen people of God, remain the apple of his eye They have been expelled, exposed to misery, persecuted, imprisoned, tortured, and murdered from the time of their captivity in Egypt to this very day, yet Israel lives as a nation. Have you ever asked yourself why, why have the Jews been persecuted so horribly, yet preserved as a people and nation?

God's Plan:
The LORD planned to use a descendant of Noah, from the line of his firstborn son, Shem, to separate a people for himself and create a nation. And through all their corruption, and foolishness, the Jews remain the “apple of God’s eye.” Here is the LORD’s explicit declaration to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, his twelve sons, and all the generations to follow.

Genesis 12:2, “I (the LORD) will make of you a great nation, I will bless you, and make your name great,” The promise of a nation assumes the existence of a national homeland.

Genesis 17:19, “Sarah your wife shall bear you a son indeed, and you shall call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an EVERLASTING covenant, and with his seed (his descendants) after him.”

Now because they sinned against God, the ten Northern tribes were overrun by the Assyrians in 790 B.C. The Babylonians murdered tens of thousands of Jews, and in 586 B.C., Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the Temple and the city of Jerusalem. Around 465 B.C. the Jews escaped the ruin designed for them by Haman. They would suffer the onslaught of Ptolemy Lagus King of Egypt, the dispersion by Seleucus Nicator, the slaughter by Antiochus Epiphanes, the ravaging by Crassus the Roman General, and by Herod the Great.

After murdering the Lord Jesus, the scepter would temporally depart from Judah. But this was only the beginning of Israel’s calamities.
Deuteronomy 28:29, “And you (Israel) shall grope at noonday, as the blind grope in darkness, and you shall not prosper in your ways: and you shall be only oppressed and spoiled (be plundered continually) evermore, and no man shall save you.” See Mathew 24.

Matthew 27:25, As the Lord hung from the cross, the people cried out, “Let his blood be on us and our children.” The people put a curse on their own heads and the heads of their children. Thousands would be killed at Cesarea, Damascus, Bethshan, and Alexandria, by Vespasian, and by the Roman Legions led by Titus. In Jerusalem, over a million were killed, and at Masasada a thousand more died by their own hand. Then the Roman Catholics began their persecution of Jews, this followed by the Islamic hordes, the Ottoman, and most recently Adolph Hitler and his Nazi party who took the lives of 6 million. The LORD’s judgments upon the Jews have been terrible, extending to the people, their religion, and the land. Their ceremonies essential to their religion are no longer observed, except by the Orthodox Jews: also, no longer observed is their ritual law, for they remain without a Temple, altar, and sacrifice.

But the LORD has kept his promise, Ezekiel 37:24, “I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and all your idols, will I cleanse you.”

The time of cleansing had arrived: It began on May 14, 1948, when a generation of newborn babies came into the World. God’s promise, “This generation shall not pass away until all these things (Matthew wrote about) are fulfilled.” This generation is now 76 years of age. Israel is at war in the North, South and West. Antisemitism abounds throughout the world, and hatred against them is on the rise. There remains for them one friend, the community of Christians. We must continue to pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

The bush of Moses, surrounded with flames, forever burns, yet it will never be consumed.

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Graffed is in each verse I quoted.

And can you please say the name of the book, the CHAPTER and the verse so I can read it for myself and find the following seven words "Grafted into the family of the Jews"

Thank you in advance,

JW
Romans 11:17-23. So, you do not misunderstand me: Put everything in context.
Natural Olive trees are the Jews.
Wild Olive trees are the Gentiles.
Verse 15" Casting away of broken off branches speaks of the Jews.
Verse 17, Branches broken off means the Jews.
Verse 19, Branches broken off are Jews, Graffed in are the Gentiles.
Verse 23, God will graff the Jews back in again.

Verse 24 ties it all together. "For if you were to cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature (Gentiles), and were Graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree (the Jews): how much more shall these (the Jews), which are the natural branches, be Graffed into their own olive tree? So that which God has cut out, he will again graff back into the natural tree.

[JehovahsWitness]

Graffed is in each verse I quoted.

You misunderstand my request. You posted seven words in "<--- quotation marks --->"" and implied those seven words were a quotation from the bible. Here are the seven words in question :

... "Grafted into the family of the Jews."

A QUOTATION

1. [is] a group of words taken from a text or speech and repeated by someone other than the original author or speaker.
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Were those seven words a quotation from the bible? Yes or No.

If "yes" would you be so kind as provide the precise chapter and verse were I can read those seven words in that exact order in the bible. That is what is generally refered to as a reference.


Here are the seven words I am asking about

... "Grafted into the family of the Jews."

JW

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Graffed is in each verse I quoted.

You misunderstand my request. You posted seven words in "<--- quotation marks --->"" and implied those seven words were a quotation from the bible. Here are the seven words in question :

... "Grafted into the family of the Jews."

A QUOTATION

1. [is] a group of words taken from a text or speech and repeated by someone other than the original author or speaker.
Definitions from Oxford Languages

Were those seven words a quotation from the bible? Yes or No.

If "yes" would you be so kind as provide the precise chapter and verse were I can read those seven words in that exact order in the bible. That is what is generally refered to as a reference.


Here are the seven words I am asking about

Never said they were quotes from the Bible. There are my words in quotes. Teaching is difficult, many times explanations are needed for people to understand what the scriptures are talking about. When I do quote the Bible, I always give the book, chapter, and verse. I have no idea if you knew what the phrase "Graffed into" meant. Understand, unlike other nations of the world, Jews are a family; 12 tribes, one father, Abraham.

Romans 11:23, "Shall be Graffed in: for God is able to Graff them in again." Verse 23, "if they (Jews) abide not sitll in unbelief, shall be Graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Verse 24, "natural branches (Jews), be Graffed into their own olive tree?"

... "Grafted into the family of the Jews."

JW

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Graffed is in each verse I quoted.

You misunderstand my request. You posted seven words in "<--- quotation marks --->"" and implied those seven words were a quotation from the bible. Here are the seven words in question :

... "Grafted into the family of the Jews."

A QUOTATION

1. [is] a group of words taken from a text or speech and repeated by someone other than the original author or speaker.
Definitions from Oxford Languages

Were those seven words a quotation from the bible? Yes or No.

If "yes" would you be so kind as provide the precise chapter and verse were I can read those seven words in that exact order in the bible. That is what is generally refered to as a reference.


Here are the seven words I am asking about

Never said they were quotes from the Bible. There are my words in quotes. Teaching is difficult, many times explanations are needed for people to understand what the scriptures are talking about. When I do quote the Bible, I always give the book, chapter, and verse. I have no idea if you knew what the phrase "Graffed into" meant. Understand, unlike other nations of the world, Jews are a family; 12 tribes, one father, Abraham.

Romans 11:23, "Shall be Graffed in: for God is able to Graff them in again." Verse 23, "if they (Jews) abide not sitll in unbelief, shall be Graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Verse 24, "natural branches (Jews), be Graffed into their own olive tree?"

... "Grafted into the family of the Jews."

JW

That's correct: Believing Gentiles will be Graffed into the blessing the LORD promised the Jews.

[JehovahsWitness]

... you have completely overlooked, ... Christians are "Grafted into the family of the Jews." ...

Never said they were quotes from the Bible. There are my words in quotes.

Okay, thanks for cleaning that up.




JW

[JehovahsWitness]

... you have completely overlooked, ... Christians are "Grafted into the family of the Jews." ...

The bible doesn't say Christians are "Grafted into the family of the Jews" (those are your words not God's) . Paul spoke about the gentiles being granted into "a tree" ; the tree epresents the Abrahamic promise not the Jewish nation or religion.




JW


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... you have completely overlooked, ... Christians are "Grafted into the family of the Jews." ...

The bible doesn't say Christians are "Grafted into the family of the Jews" (those are your words not God's) . Paul spoke about the gentiles being granted into "a tree" ; the tree epresents the Abrahamic promise not the Jewish nation or religion.

Romans 11:17-18-19-20. Verse 17, "And if some of the branches be broken off (Jews), and you (Gentiles), being a wild olive tree, were GRAFFED IN AMOUNT THEM ---." See verse 19. The Jews are the natural olive tree, and the Gentiles are the wild olive tree. GET IT!


JW


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Romans 11:17-18-19-20. Verse 17, "And if some of the branches be broken off (Jews), and you (Gentiles), being a wild olive tree, were GRAFFED IN AMOUNT THEM ---." See verse 19. The Jews are the natural olive tree, and the Gentiles are the wild olive tree. GET IT!

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Romans 11:17-18-19-20. Verse 17, "And if some of the branches be broken off (Jews), and you (Gentiles), being a wild olive tree, were GRAFFED IN AMOUNT THEM ---." See verse 19. The Jews are the natural olive tree, and the Gentiles are the wild olive tree. GET IT!

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Sorry, computers confuse me. If you think you're confused, you should be sitting in my chair, that's why I call myself Placebofactor. When it comes to computers, all I do right is turn it on, after that, it's all guesswork. If I could find someone to teach me, it would be nice, but all you young people are too busy, I can't even get them to say "Hello, how are you? much less show me things about these new-fangled devices. I live in Alabama, my son lives in the Philippines, my daughters in New York, and most of my friends are either in nursing homes or dead, so here I sit by myself debating people like you. Maybe that's why I enjoy Jehovah's Witnesses when they come knocking on my door, nobody else does.

[JehovahsWitness]

Romans 11:17-18-19-20. Verse 17, "And if some of the branches be broken off (Jews), and you (Gentiles), being a wild olive tree, were GRAFFED IN AMOUNT THEM ---." See verse 19. The Jews are the natural olive tree, and the Gentiles are the wild olive tree. GET IT!

NOTE FOR PLACEBO : PLEASE TRY AND LEARN HIWNTO PROPERLY USE THE QUOTATION FEATURE YOUR FAILURE'TO DO SO CAUSES POSTER CONFUSION.

If you tap the quotation button [ "] you MUST start typing your own comments AFTER this symbol ---> [ / quote] <---

Sorry, computers confuse me. If you think you're confused, you should be sitting in my chair, that's why I call myself Placebofactor. When it comes to computers, all I do right is turn it on, after that, it's all guesswork. If I could find someone to teach me, it would be nice, but all you young people are too busy, I can't even get them to say "Hello, how are you? much less show me things about these new-fangled devices. I live in Alabama, my son lives in the Philippines, my daughters in New York, and most of my friends are either in nursing homes or dead, so here I sit by myself debating people like you. Maybe that's why I enjoy Jehovah's Witnesses when they come knocking on my door, nobody else does.

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