Hosea 5:15

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Hosea 5:15

I have several questions that need the insight of others. My questions concern Hosea 5:15. The LORD is speaking to the prophet and said to him,

“I will go and return to my place, until they (the Jews) acknowledge (or confess) their offense, and seek my face; in their affliction, they will seek me early.”

When do you think the Lord returned to his place? My response can be found in Acts 1:9 when Jesus “was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.” In other words, when he returned to his Father in heaven.
Your thoughts.

Second question: “What was the offense of the Jews?” I think it was the rejection and the murder of the Son of God.
Your thoughts.

Third question: What affliction is he speaking of? I believe it’s the time of Jacob’s trouble, or the ‘Great Tribulation" the Jews will have to suffer through.
Your thoughts.

[JehovahsWitness]

Israel was not struck in May of 31 A.D

Okay but I"m interested in your explanation of HOSEA 6

HOSEA 6:1-2
“Come, and let us return to Jehovah, For he has torn us to pieces, but he will heal us. He struck us, but he will bind our wounds. 2 He will revive us [The Jews] after two days. On the third day he will raise us up, And we will live before him.

I thought you said that the "us" of Hosea 6 verse 2 was Israël.

So, is the "us" of Hosea 6 verse 2a ("He will revive us after two days") Jesus or the Israelites?

The us are the Jews. ...

Has the" us " of Hosea 6 verse 2a (. He struck us,) stopped being the Jews since your post #46?

[placebofactor]

Israel was not struck in May of 31 A.D

Okay but I"m interested in your explanation of HOSEA 6

HOSEA 6:1-2
“Come, and let us return to Jehovah, For he has torn us to pieces, but he will heal us. He struck us, but he will bind our wounds. 2 He will revive us [The Jews] after two days. On the third day he will raise us up, And we will live before him.

I thought you said that the "us" of Hosea 6 verse 2 was Israël.

So, is the "us" of Hosea 6 verse 2a ("He will revive us after two days") Jesus or the Israelites?

The us are the Jews. ...

Has the" us " of Hosea 6 verse 2a (. He struck us,) stopped being the Jews since your post #46?

My final answer to your question: HOSEA 6:1-2
“Come, and let us (Israel) return to Jehovah, For he has torn us (the Jews) to pieces, but he will heal us (the Jews). He struck us the Jews), but he will bind our wounds (all of Israel. 2 He will revive us [The Jews] after two days. On the third day he will raise us (the Jews) up, And we (Israel) will live before him.

[placebofactor]

Israel was not struck in May of 31 A.D

Okay but I"m interested in your explanation of HOSEA 6

HOSEA 6:1-2
“Come, and let us return to Jehovah, For he has torn us to pieces, but he will heal us. He struck us, but he will bind our wounds. 2 He will revive us [The Jews] after two days. On the third day he will raise us up, And we will live before him.

I thought you said that the "us" of Hosea 6 verse 2 was Israël.

So, is the "us" of Hosea 6 verse 2a ("He will revive us after two days") Jesus or the Israelites?

The us are the Jews. ...

Has the" us " of Hosea 6 verse 2a (. He struck us,) stopped being the Jews since your post #46?

My final answer to your question: HOSEA 6:1-2
“Come, and let us (Israel) return to Jehovah, For he has torn us (the Jews) to pieces, but he will heal us (the Jews). He struck us the Jews), but he will bind our wounds (all of Israel. 2 He will revive us [The Jews] after two days. On the third day he will raise us (the Jews) up, And we (Israel) will live before him.

The Jews were not blessed, or punished for their faith, or lack of it, nor their sins. His blessings and his punishments have been and continue to be handed out for their good.

[JehovahsWitness]

HOSEA 6:1-2
“Come, and let us return to Jehovah, For he has torn us to pieces, but he will heal us. He struck us, but he will bind our wounds. 2 He will revive us [The Jews] after two days. On the third day he will raise us up, And we will live before him.

... torn us (the Jews) to pieces, .... 2 He will revive us [The Jews] after two days.

Okay then. So if the Jews (us) were revived "two thousand years after being struck" ...would that not be 2,000 years after May of 31 A.D? Or would the Jews ("us") be revived two thousand years after another date? (If so, what would that alternative date be?)

Israel was not struck in May of 31 A.D

[placebofactor]

HOSEA 6:1-2
“Come, and let us return to Jehovah, For he has torn us to pieces, but he will heal us. He struck us, but he will bind our wounds. 2 He will revive us [The Jews] after two days. On the third day he will raise us up, And we will live before him.

... torn us (the Jews) to pieces, .... 2 He will revive us [The Jews] after two days.

Okay then. So if the Jews (us) were revived "two thousand years after being struck" ...would that not be 2,000 years after May of 31 A.D? Or would the Jews ("us") be revived two thousand years after another date? (If so, what would that alternative date be?)

Israel was not struck in May of 31 A.D

I'm done!

[JehovahsWitness]

. So if the Jews (us) were revived "two thousand years after being struck" ...would that not be 2,000 years after May of 31 A.D? Or would the Jews ("us") be revived two thousand years after another date? (If so, what would that alternative date be?)

I'm done!

A very wise decision on your part. If an idea cannot explained simply and clearly there is a good chance it is not accurate.

It should not take 12 POSTS to squeeze ... "Two thousand years from the time Isreal experienced A to the year XX XX when Israel experienced B "

If you could have filled in the BLANKS above you'd have saved us both a lot of time


JW

[placebofactor]

. So if the Jews (us) were revived "two thousand years after being struck" ...would that not be 2,000 years after May of 31 A.D? Or would the Jews ("us") be revived two thousand years after another date? (If so, what would that alternative date be?)

I'm done!

A very wise decision on your part. If an idea cannot explained simply and clearly there is a good chance it is not accurate.

It should not take 12 POSTS to squeeze ... "Two thousand years from the time Isreal experienced A to the year XX XX when Israel experienced B "

If you could have filled in the BLANKS above you'd have saved us both a lot of time


JW

If you would have read post 20, you would not have waisted my time!

[onewithhim]

. So if the Jews (us) were revived "two thousand years after being struck" ...would that not be 2,000 years after May of 31 A.D? Or would the Jews ("us") be revived two thousand years after another date? (If so, what would that alternative date be?)

I'm done!

A very wise decision on your part. If an idea cannot explained simply and clearly there is a good chance it is not accurate.

It should not take 12 POSTS to squeeze ... "Two thousand years from the time Isreal experienced A to the year XX XX when Israel experienced B "

If you could have filled in the BLANKS above you'd have saved us both a lot of time


JW

If you would have read post 20, you would not have waisted my time!

I read post #20 and I don't see how it contradicts what JehovahsWitness has said. Could you answer the question in their last post?

[JehovahsWitness]

It should not take 12 POSTS to squeeze ... "Two thousand years from the time Isreal experienced [ A ] to the year [XX XX] when Israel experienced [ B ] "

....

If you would have read post 20 {snip} ...

I did read the post and it does not contain the above statement or anything like it. Starting point for named subject/ ending point for same subject, in one sentence. How hard would that have been?

[placebofactor]

It should not take 12 POSTS to squeeze ... "Two thousand years from the time Isreal experienced [ A ] to the year [XX XX] when Israel experienced [ B ] "

....

If you would have read post 20 {snip} ...

I did read the post and it does not contain the above statement or anything like it. Starting point for named subject/ ending point for same subject, in one sentence. How hard would that have been?

I knew it, if you had ever studied the subject in detail, you would have known it.