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Jesus is God - Jude - Michael does not rebuke Satan

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Jude 1:9 Even the archangel Michael, when he argued with the Devil and fought over the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him. Instead, he said, “May the Lord rebuke you!”
Matthew 4
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Jesus is Tempted by Satan
4 After this, Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the Devil. 2 After fasting for 40 days and 40 nights, he finally became hungry.

3 Then the tempter came. “Since[a] you are the Son of God,” he said, “tell these stones to become loaves of bread.”

4 But he answered, “It is written,

‘One must not live on bread alone,
but on every word coming
out of the mouth of God.’”

5 Then the Devil took him to the Holy City and had him stand on the highest point of the Temple. 6 He told Jesus, “Since you are the Son of God, throw yourself down, because it is written,

‘God will put his angels in charge of you,’

and,

‘With their hands they will hold you up,
so that you will never hit your foot against a rock.’”

7 Jesus responded to him, “It is also written, ‘You must not tempt the Lord your God.’”

8 Once more the Devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, along with their splendor. 9 He told Jesus, “I will give you all these things if you will bow down and worship me!”

10 Then Jesus told him, “Go away, Satan! Because it is written,

‘You must worship the Lord your God
and serve only him.’”

11 So the Devil left him, and angels came and began ministering to him.

Michael does not rebuke Satan and says May the Lord rebuke you.
Jesus does rebuke Satan.

Therefore:
Jesus is not Michael.
Jesus is the Lord.
Jesus is God.

Does this prove Jesus is not Michael?
Does this prove Jesus is God?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Re: Jesus is God - Jude - Michael does not rebuke Satan

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:34 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:32 am
The Father addressed the Son ...
Where does the "The Father address the son" I see no such scripture. Hebrews 1v8 says God speaks about his son.
Maybe not in the NWT, but in KJV it has;

Heb 1:8-9
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
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Re: Jesus is God - Jude - Michael does not rebuke Satan

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Capbook wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 6:58 am The Father addressed the Son ...


HEBREWS 1: 7 DOES PAUL SAY ALMIGHTY GOD (YHWH) THE FATHER ADDRESSES HIS SON AS HIS GOD?


HEBREWS 1: 7, 8 says "Also, he says about the angels: “He makes his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.” 8 But about the Son..." NWT, so no, so the words Paul quotes were not God speaking to or addressing his son but speaking ABOUT his son. Note various translations of the same passage below ...

New International Version
But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

English Standard Version
But of the Son he says

Berean Standard Bible
But about the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever, and justice is the scepter of Your kingdom.

New American Standard Bible
But regarding the Son He says ...

NASB 1995
But of the Son He says ...

NASB 1977
But of the Son He says ...

Legacy Standard Bible
But of the Son He says ...

American Standard Version
but of the Son he saith ...

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
But concerning The Son, he said ...

Contemporary English Version
But God says about his Son ...

English Revised Version
but of the Son he saith ...

GOD'S WORD® Translation
But God said about his Son, ...

Good News Translation
About the Son, however, God said: ...

International Standard Version
But about the Son he says, ...

Majority Standard Bible
But about the Son He says: ...

New American Bible
but of the Son: ...

NET Bible
but of the Son he says, ...

New Revised Standard Version
But of the Son he says, ...

New Heart English Bible
But of the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of your Kingdom.

Weymouth New Testament
But of His Son, He says, "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and for ever, and the sceptre of Thy Kingdom is a sceptre of absolute justice.

World English Bible
But of the Son he says ...






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Re: Jesus is God - Jude - Michael does not rebuke Satan

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:35 pm
Capbook wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 6:58 am The Father addressed the Son ...


HEBREWS 1: 7 DOES PAUL SAY ALMIGHTY GOD (YHWH) THE FATHER ADDRESSES HIS SON AS HIS GOD?


HEBREWS 1: 7, 8 says "Also, he says about the angels: “He makes his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.” 8 But about the Son..." NWT, so no, so the words Paul quotes were not God speaking to or addressing his son but speaking ABOUT his son. Note various translations of the same passage below ...

New International Version
But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

English Standard Version
But of the Son he says

Berean Standard Bible
But about the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever, and justice is the scepter of Your kingdom.

New American Standard Bible
But regarding the Son He says ...

NASB 1995
But of the Son He says ...

NASB 1977
But of the Son He says ...

Legacy Standard Bible
But of the Son He says ...

American Standard Version
but of the Son he saith ...

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
But concerning The Son, he said ...

Contemporary English Version
But God says about his Son ...

English Revised Version
but of the Son he saith ...

GOD'S WORD® Translation
But God said about his Son, ...

Good News Translation
About the Son, however, God said: ...

International Standard Version
But about the Son he says, ...

Majority Standard Bible
But about the Son He says: ...

New American Bible
but of the Son: ...

NET Bible
but of the Son he says, ...

New Revised Standard Version
But of the Son he says, ...

New Heart English Bible
But of the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of your Kingdom.

Weymouth New Testament
But of His Son, He says, "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and for ever, and the sceptre of Thy Kingdom is a sceptre of absolute justice.

World English Bible
But of the Son he says ...






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What the Father says mean?
Online meaning of address is; talk to ,give a talk to, give an address to, speak to.
No other argument that is substantive?

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