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Is the revelation of New World Order heresy or the strategy of the church of the Last Days? What are your opinions?
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- OccamsRazor
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Post #41
I'm sorry but I have never understood where you draw the line between "Gods power" and "Magic". Surely any supernatural power (including your notion of divine power) can be called "magic".Anselm wrote:First of all don't insult believers. Christians don't use magic if somebody's healed they are healed through God's power not through magic. Only occultists perform healing through satanic power. If a person is healed this way the demons then have rights on him or her.
My point is what is magic anyway?Arthur C. Clarke wrote:Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
When I was growing up I read The Hobbit and The Lord Of The Rings. I also read many other books which had powerful Witch and Wizard protagonists. Furthermore my friends and I, at school, used to pretend we could do magic and made ouija boards. I am now approaching 30 (In a couple of weeks) and will be a dad in 6 months time. I am not aware of the unspeakable evil that I am propagating throughout the world.Anselm wrote:Let's wait for the generation to grow up...
Post #42
Yes, we may as well as we're clearly not going to agree on this.Anselm wrote:HughDP
Don't compare Brothers Grimm's tales, for example, and Harry Potter. The last one represents himself as a powerful magician. As if magic is something cool and the way to obtain whatever you wish. Grimm's tales do not show occult practices in details unlike Harry.Loads of kids of my era (and others no doubt) have been brought up on stories of wizards, magicians and magic and not one that I know of has turned out to be an occultist.
That does not mean she was not involved in occultism later? Why is she aware of forms of magic spells etc.?I did go to the same school as Joanne Rowling (she was 1 year below me); I didn't know her very well but I'm fairly certain she wasn't a witch.
Let's wait for the generation to grow up...If you have evidence of Harry Potter leading to dangerous occultist beliefs in people, please present it.
Personally I think it's one of the most ludicrous things I've heard since, well, since the last time I read about a Christian ranting on about Harry Potter.
Alas, I don't believe a word of that, sorry.but plenty people ignore the 'Word of God' and still manage to stay out of 'mischief'.
1 Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.
2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.
3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.
5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.
6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.
7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.
8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.
9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.
10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.
11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?
12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.
13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.
14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.
15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.
16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;
17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end. (HELL)
18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.
19 How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.
20 As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image.
(Ps.73:1-20)
They think they prosper now but after their death they get perdition. Life in vain. You may not believe, when you see Jesus as the Judge not as the Saviour you shall believe but that'll be too late. A person can make choice to repent only in a physical body.
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment
(Heb.9:27)
Anyway, best wishes to you. I'll dive back out of this thread again until something else catches my eye.
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. (Stephen Roberts)
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Post #43
McCulloch wrote:It is clear that you believe that your God does not aprove of any magic being done except by those who worship Him,
I cannot distinguish between a supernatural healing done in the name of the Christian God and a supernatural healing done in the name of the godess. Both are magic, any art that invokes supernatural powers.Anselm wrote:First of all don't insult believers. Christians don't use magic if somebody's healed they are healed through God's power not through magic. Only occultists perform healing through satanic power. If a person is healed this way the demons then have rights on him or her.
Ah, so the difference is that your particular version of God it the one true God and all other versions are false. I, for one, will not accept that without proof.Anselm wrote:There is only one true God: Father, Jesus Christ the Saviour, Holy Ghost - one in three and three in one, all other false gods shall fall down, all gods of nations are nothing.
McCulloch wrote:That's fine for those who accept the teachings of Christianity. But you seem to be calling on governments to enforce by law the teachings of one religion on those who do not believe it.
And, of course, your group gets to define righteousness and wickedness for the rest of us.Anselm wrote:If righteousness does not judge wickedness, the wickedness shall judge righteousness!
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
Re: New World Order
Post #44Anselm wrote:http://www.ngteam.org/NWO.htm
Is the revelation of New World Order heresy or the strategy of the church of the Last Days? What are your opinions?
Link doesn't open for me , May I still add my answer What the N.W.O. about ? Not trying to change the subject / question .