Discrimination

[Kuan]

Discrimination seems to be very applicable to multiple issues nowadays. Sometimes I think that we are taking it to far. For example some colleges are required to accept certain amounts of people from different races to be fair. But is this really fair? Lets say a college has to have about 50% white, 30% black, 10% asian, and 10% polynesian attending school. So they meet these requirements but what about the others who didnt get accepted because it was given to another race, even though that one student had a better SAT/ACT score and better GPA?

Another example would be immigration, is it discrimination to send illegal aliens back to their homeland? If its not, what laws are acceptable to enforce it? What about illegal immigrants from Canada, they would be deported almost instantly but a Mexican immigrant wouldnt because it would be discriminating.

Question for debate: Do we put too much focus into not discriminating sometimes that we discriminate against others?

[Lux]

That is not what the definition of lawful contact is within the context of the Arizona Law. A lawful contact must be a stop or an arrest of some sort, this point is not arguable. The American Judiciary leaves little room for ambiguious interpretations on points like these.

I've been looking for anything in the Arizona Statutes that defined "lawful contact" in such a way and found absolutely nothing, so I dare say that the system does leave space for ambiguous interpretations. So much so that, as I found out while looking up "Lawful contact", they are going to be changing the text of SB 1070. Instead of reading "Lawful contact", it will read "Lawful stop, detention or arrest", among other changes that can be found here. Overall, I think the changes are positive in that they reasonably restrict the possibility of racial profiling. Under the previous text, it would have been possible for police officers to approach an individual on blurry grounds and request their immigration papers.

[ChaosBorders]

You don't understand that if the police want to target someone, they can find SOME excuse... even if it is jay walking.

If the police want to stop someone, they can find an excuse.

Have you ever heard the term 'police state'? How about "Due Process of Law"?

The first quote is pure conjecture and is simply insulting to the police, you make it seem like they're this group of conspirators trying to ruin other peoples lives. You also forgot to mention that there exists something called a writ of habeus corpus can be petitioned by those who feel that they are being unlawfully detained.

Not really that insulting. I've heard at least a couple police officers I know say the exact same thing. That doesn't mean most of them will actually abuse that ability, but some will and laws should generally be written to minimize the potential for abuse.