Athetotheist wrote: ↑Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:16 pm [Replying to marke in post #310]
There is a long list of things which contribute to global warming, human elevation of CO2 levels being at the top of that list.GW enthusiasts have a long list of things that cause global warming, including poverty and cow farts.
Marke: The list of those things which are believed by the biased to cause GW is as long as unsupported human imagination is unlimited.
You may "walk by faith", but scientists walk by facts.Those opinions are not proven scientific facts.
Marke: The wisest scientists do not stubbornly believe they are never wrong no matter what reasonable people point out about their flawed thinking.
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Have you measured yourself on that scale?The wisest scientists do not stubbornly believe they are never wrong no matter what reasonable people point out about their flawed thinking.
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While the total number of hurricanes might not be definitively proven to be increasing, there's strong evidence that hurricanes are becoming more intense and destructive due to climate change, with warmer oceans fueling stronger winds, heavier rainfall, and more severe storm surges.
You were going on about what a small change there's been to ocean temperature, but apparently it's enough to fuel stronger winds, heavier rainfall and more severe storm surges.marke wrote:Atmospheric CO2 content has risen 25% in the last 65 years, according to researchers, yet the ocean temperature has risen only .67 degrees in 100 years.
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The strongest hurricanes to hit the US mainland and other ...
The Great Galveston Hurricane of 1900 is considered the deadliest hurricane in U.S. history, with an estimated 8,000 to 12,000 deaths.
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Post #316Super neato! Thank you for that.
Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas that inhibits heat from leaving the planet.
Humans are adding this greenhouse gas to the atmosphere that inhibits heat from leaving the planet.
Should we be concerned as humans about this, or ignore it... because 'Jesus'?
If your toilet is clogged and you continue to add water to it, your toilet bowl will overflow.
Should we be concerned as humans about continuing to flush a clogged bowl, or ignore it... because 'Jesus'?
Please, I beg of you to realize I am not making claims about needing to spend trillions of dollar or any of the other things you go on about because of GW. I'm only claiming that to know what Carbon Dioxide does in our atmosphere, noting that humans are adding to it and wondering if it is responsible to consider curbing the amount we add to the atmosphere. What are your thoughts on that? I bolded, underlined and changed the color of the actual question to help it stand out.
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Post #317Athetotheist wrote: ↑Tue Apr 08, 2025 8:25 pm [Replying to marke in post #313]
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While the total number of hurricanes might not be definitively proven to be increasing, there's strong evidence that hurricanes are becoming more intense and destructive due to climate change, with warmer oceans fueling stronger winds, heavier rainfall, and more severe storm surges.
Marke: That is not irrefutably scientifically verified even though so many professionals claim that it is true. It is nothing more that widely endorsed interpretations of data and biased conclusions.
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While a direct, irrefutable proof of a cause-and-effect relationship between every specific weather calamity and a small temperature increase is difficult to establish, the scientific consensus is that human-caused climate change, including rising global temperatures, is significantly increasing the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events.
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Post #318Clownboat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:57 pmSuper neato! Thank you for that.
Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas that inhibits heat from leaving the planet.
Humans are adding this greenhouse gas to the atmosphere that inhibits heat from leaving the planet.
Should we be concerned as humans about this, or ignore it... because 'Jesus'?
If your toilet is clogged and you continue to add water to it, your toilet bowl will overflow.
Should we be concerned as humans about continuing to flush a clogged bowl, or ignore it... because 'Jesus'?
Please, I beg of you to realize I am not making claims about needing to spend trillions of dollar or any of the other things you go on about because of GW. I'm only claiming that to know what Carbon Dioxide does in our atmosphere, noting that humans are adding to it and wondering if it is responsible to consider curbing the amount we add to the atmosphere. What are your thoughts on that? I bolded, underlined and changed the color of the actual question to help it stand out.
Be well.
Marke: When leftist politicians claim the seas are rising because of GW and then buy multi-million dollar homes on the coast and fly all over the world on fuel-guzzling jets, they prpove they do not care for the environment. Their interest is in propagating a narrative they do not believe but need other people to believe in order to create public support for trillions of dollars in support of the questionable narratives they do not even themselves believe. Too many research professionals simply go along with the propagated narrative for reasons not related to science.
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Cause-and-effect relationships don't have to be established between every specific weather calamity and a small temperature increase; the higher temperatures, stronger winds, heavier rainfall and more severe storm surges show what the small changes are leading to.AI Overview
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While a direct, irrefutable proof of a cause-and-effect relationship between every specific weather calamity and a small temperature increase is difficult to establish, the scientific consensus is that human-caused climate change, including rising global temperatures, is significantly increasing the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events.
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Post #320[Replying to marke in post #318]
The rich are the rich, politicians are politicians and rich politicians are rich politicians.When leftist politicians claim the seas are rising because of GW and then buy multi-million dollar homes on the coast and fly all over the world on fuel-guzzling jets, they prpove they do not care for the environment. Their interest is in propagating a narrative they do not believe but need other people to believe in order to create public support for trillions of dollars in support of the questionable narratives they do not even themselves believe.
Research professionals don't "simply go along with the propagated narrative". They're the ones conducting the science.Too many research professionals simply go along with the propagated narrative for reasons not related to science.
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