"Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."

[Athetotheist]

What are we to make of this?




Do they not realize that they're making Jesus out to be a liar?

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."
(Matthew 24:35)

"He that loveth Me not, keepeth not My sayings. And the Word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father’s who sent Me."
(John 14:24)

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #310]

GW enthusiasts have a long list of things that cause global warming, including poverty and cow farts.

There is a long list of things which contribute to global warming, human elevation of CO2 levels being at the top of that list.

Those opinions are not proven scientific facts.

You may "walk by faith", but scientists walk by facts.

Drivers of Climate Change 
Atmospheric concentrations of many gases—primarily carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide and halocarbons (gases once used widely as refrigerants and spray propellants)—have increased because of human activities.

Such gases trap thermal energy (heat) within the atmosphere by means of the well-known greenhouse effect, leading to global warming. The atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide remained roughly stable for nearly 10,000 years, before the abrupt and rapidly accelerating increases of the past 200 years. Growth rates for concentrations of carbon dioxide have been faster in the past 10 years than over any 10-year period since continuous atmospheric monitoring began in the 1950s, with concentrations now roughly 35 percent above preindustrial levels (which can be determined from air bubbles trapped in ice cores). Methane levels are roughly two and a half times preindustrial levels, and nitrous oxide levels are around 20 percent higher.

How can we be sure that humans are responsible for these increases? Some greenhouse gases (most of the halocarbons, for example) have no natural source. For other gases, two important observations demonstrate human influence. First, the geographic differences in concentrations reveal that sources occur predominantly over land in the more heavily populated Northern Hemisphere. Second, analysis of isotopes, which can distinguish among sources of emissions, demonstrates that the majority of the increase in carbon dioxide comes from combustion of fossil fuels (coal, oil and natural gas). Methane and nitrous oxide increases derive from agricultural practices and the burning of fossil fuels.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... te-change/

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #310]

GW enthusiasts have a long list of things that cause global warming, including poverty and cow farts.

There is a long list of things which contribute to global warming, human elevation of CO2 levels being at the top of that list.

Marke: The list of those things which are believed by the biased to cause GW is as long as unsupported human imagination is unlimited.

Those opinions are not proven scientific facts.

You may "walk by faith", but scientists walk by facts.

Marke: The wisest scientists do not stubbornly believe they are never wrong no matter what reasonable people point out about their flawed thinking.

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #310]

Drivers of Climate Change 
Atmospheric concentrations of many gases—primarily carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide and halocarbons (gases once used widely as refrigerants and spray propellants)—have increased because of human activities.

Such gases trap thermal energy (heat) within the atmosphere by means of the well-known greenhouse effect, leading to global warming. The atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide remained roughly stable for nearly 10,000 years, before the abrupt and rapidly accelerating increases of the past 200 years. Growth rates for concentrations of carbon dioxide have been faster in the past 10 years than over any 10-year period since continuous atmospheric monitoring began in the 1950s, with concentrations now roughly 35 percent above preindustrial levels (which can be determined from air bubbles trapped in ice cores). Methane levels are roughly two and a half times preindustrial levels, and nitrous oxide levels are around 20 percent higher.

How can we be sure that humans are responsible for these increases? Some greenhouse gases (most of the halocarbons, for example) have no natural source. For other gases, two important observations demonstrate human influence. First, the geographic differences in concentrations reveal that sources occur predominantly over land in the more heavily populated Northern Hemisphere. Second, analysis of isotopes, which can distinguish among sources of emissions, demonstrates that the majority of the increase in carbon dioxide comes from combustion of fossil fuels (coal, oil and natural gas). Methane and nitrous oxide increases derive from agricultural practices and the burning of fossil fuels.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... te-change/

Marke: Claiming catastrophic weather events are increasing due to human progress is an unproven opinion, no matter how many humans believe it is a proven scientific fact. What caused hurricanes and tornadoes before the industrial age? Nature, just as it does now. What caused heat waves hundreds of years ago? Nature.

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The Great Galveston Hurricane of 1900 is considered the deadliest hurricane in U.S. history, with an estimated 8,000 to 12,000 deaths.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #312]

The wisest scientists do not stubbornly believe they are never wrong no matter what reasonable people point out about their flawed thinking.

Have you measured yourself on that scale?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #313]

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While the total number of hurricanes might not be definitively proven to be increasing, there's strong evidence that hurricanes are becoming more intense and destructive due to climate change, with warmer oceans fueling stronger winds, heavier rainfall, and more severe storm surges.

Atmospheric CO2 content has risen 25% in the last 65 years, according to researchers, yet the ocean temperature has risen only .67 degrees in 100 years.

You were going on about what a small change there's been to ocean temperature, but apparently it's enough to fuel stronger winds, heavier rainfall and more severe storm surges.

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We've been over this.

[Clownboat]

Marke: The wisest scientists do not stubbornly believe they are never wrong no matter what reasonable people point out about their flawed thinking.

Super neato! Thank you for that.

Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas that inhibits heat from leaving the planet.
Humans are adding this greenhouse gas to the atmosphere that inhibits heat from leaving the planet.
Should we be concerned as humans about this, or ignore it... because 'Jesus'?

If your toilet is clogged and you continue to add water to it, your toilet bowl will overflow.
Should we be concerned as humans about continuing to flush a clogged bowl, or ignore it... because 'Jesus'?

Please, I beg of you to realize I am not making claims about needing to spend trillions of dollar or any of the other things you go on about because of GW. I'm only claiming that to know what Carbon Dioxide does in our atmosphere, noting that humans are adding to it and wondering if it is responsible to consider curbing the amount we add to the atmosphere. What are your thoughts on that? I bolded, underlined and changed the color of the actual question to help it stand out.

Be well.

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #313]

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While the total number of hurricanes might not be definitively proven to be increasing, there's strong evidence that hurricanes are becoming more intense and destructive due to climate change, with warmer oceans fueling stronger winds, heavier rainfall, and more severe storm surges.

Marke: That is not irrefutably scientifically verified even though so many professionals claim that it is true. It is nothing more that widely endorsed interpretations of data and biased conclusions.

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While a direct, irrefutable proof of a cause-and-effect relationship between every specific weather calamity and a small temperature increase is difficult to establish, the scientific consensus is that human-caused climate change, including rising global temperatures, is significantly increasing the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events.

[marke]

Marke: The wisest scientists do not stubbornly believe they are never wrong no matter what reasonable people point out about their flawed thinking.

Super neato! Thank you for that.

Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas that inhibits heat from leaving the planet.
Humans are adding this greenhouse gas to the atmosphere that inhibits heat from leaving the planet.
Should we be concerned as humans about this, or ignore it... because 'Jesus'?

If your toilet is clogged and you continue to add water to it, your toilet bowl will overflow.
Should we be concerned as humans about continuing to flush a clogged bowl, or ignore it... because 'Jesus'?

Please, I beg of you to realize I am not making claims about needing to spend trillions of dollar or any of the other things you go on about because of GW. I'm only claiming that to know what Carbon Dioxide does in our atmosphere, noting that humans are adding to it and wondering if it is responsible to consider curbing the amount we add to the atmosphere. What are your thoughts on that? I bolded, underlined and changed the color of the actual question to help it stand out.

Be well.

Marke: When leftist politicians claim the seas are rising because of GW and then buy multi-million dollar homes on the coast and fly all over the world on fuel-guzzling jets, they prpove they do not care for the environment. Their interest is in propagating a narrative they do not believe but need other people to believe in order to create public support for trillions of dollars in support of the questionable narratives they do not even themselves believe. Too many research professionals simply go along with the propagated narrative for reasons not related to science.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #317]

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While a direct, irrefutable proof of a cause-and-effect relationship between every specific weather calamity and a small temperature increase is difficult to establish, the scientific consensus is that human-caused climate change, including rising global temperatures, is significantly increasing the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events.

Cause-and-effect relationships don't have to be established between every specific weather calamity and a small temperature increase; the higher temperatures, stronger winds, heavier rainfall and more severe storm surges show what the small changes are leading to.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #318]

When leftist politicians claim the seas are rising because of GW and then buy multi-million dollar homes on the coast and fly all over the world on fuel-guzzling jets, they prpove they do not care for the environment. Their interest is in propagating a narrative they do not believe but need other people to believe in order to create public support for trillions of dollars in support of the questionable narratives they do not even themselves believe.

The rich are the rich, politicians are politicians and rich politicians are rich politicians.

Too many research professionals simply go along with the propagated narrative for reasons not related to science.

Research professionals don't "simply go along with the propagated narrative". They're the ones conducting the science.