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When You Stand Before Jesus, Will You Say To Him "You Are Not God?"

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Simple concept, simple question. Will you say that to Him to His face?

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Re: When You Stand Before Jesus, Will You Say To Him "You Are Not God?"

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Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:25 pm
slowrider wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:17 am
Benson wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:00 pm Simple concept, simple question. Will you say that to Him to His face?
I know Jesus is God.
He is my God.
He is in me and I am in Him.

If He were not God then I could not do all things in Him.
In God the Christ I can do all things.
Jesus is true God. (1 John 5:20)
No one is called in the form of God before He became human. (Phil 2:6)
Jesus has a new name and I know it.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:25 pm
slowrider wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:17 am
Benson wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:00 pm Simple concept, simple question. Will you say that to Him to His face?
I know Jesus is God.
He is my God.
He is in me and I am in Him.

If He were not God then I could not do all things in Him.
In God the Christ I can do all things.
Jesus is true God. (1 John 5:20)
No one is called in the form of God before He became human. (Phil 2:6)
I John 5:20 doesn't say that Jesus is the true God. If one reads the verse carefully, one can see that the true God is the one mentioned before it mentions Jesus. Jesus himself said that the Father ONLY is the true God. (John 17:3) The "form of God" is being a spirit Person. There are lots of angels who are spirit Persons, in the form of God. Jesus is in the form of God in that sense, as well.

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Re: When You Stand Before Jesus, Will You Say To Him "You Are Not God?"

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onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:17 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:25 pm
slowrider wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:17 am
Benson wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:00 pm Simple concept, simple question. Will you say that to Him to His face?
I know Jesus is God.
He is my God.
He is in me and I am in Him.

If He were not God then I could not do all things in Him.
In God the Christ I can do all things.
Jesus is true God. (1 John 5:20)
No one is called in the form of God before He became human. (Phil 2:6)
I John 5:20 doesn't say that Jesus is the true God. If one reads the verse carefully, one can see that the true God is the one mentioned before it mentions Jesus. Jesus himself said that the Father ONLY is the true God. (John 17:3) The "form of God" is being a spirit Person. There are lots of angels who are spirit Persons, in the form of God. Jesus is in the form of God in that sense, as well.
Maybe we have different definition of terms here, may I know what is your definition from lexicon of;
1. person
2. spirit

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Re: When You Stand Before Jesus, Will You Say To Him "You Are Not God?"

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Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:24 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:17 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:25 pm
slowrider wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:17 am
Benson wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:00 pm Simple concept, simple question. Will you say that to Him to His face?
I know Jesus is God.
He is my God.
He is in me and I am in Him.

If He were not God then I could not do all things in Him.
In God the Christ I can do all things.
Jesus is true God. (1 John 5:20)
No one is called in the form of God before He became human. (Phil 2:6)
I John 5:20 doesn't say that Jesus is the true God. If one reads the verse carefully, one can see that the true God is the one mentioned before it mentions Jesus. Jesus himself said that the Father ONLY is the true God. (John 17:3) The "form of God" is being a spirit Person. There are lots of angels who are spirit Persons, in the form of God. Jesus is in the form of God in that sense, as well.
Maybe we have different definition of terms here, may I know what is your definition from lexicon of;
1. person
2. spirit
Person: An individual being, intellectually viable. Christendom teaches that God is "three Persons in one God." So "person" means what I said, to the self-described Christian community.

Spirit: A body that is not terrestrial. Paul explained the difference in I Corinthians 15: 40-53.

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onewithhim wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:43 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:24 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:17 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:25 pm
slowrider wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:17 am
Benson wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:00 pm Simple concept, simple question. Will you say that to Him to His face?
I know Jesus is God.
He is my God.
He is in me and I am in Him.

If He were not God then I could not do all things in Him.
In God the Christ I can do all things.
Jesus is true God. (1 John 5:20)
No one is called in the form of God before He became human. (Phil 2:6)
I John 5:20 doesn't say that Jesus is the true God. If one reads the verse carefully, one can see that the true God is the one mentioned before it mentions Jesus. Jesus himself said that the Father ONLY is the true God. (John 17:3) The "form of God" is being a spirit Person. There are lots of angels who are spirit Persons, in the form of God. Jesus is in the form of God in that sense, as well.
Maybe we have different definition of terms here, may I know what is your definition from lexicon of;
1. person
2. spirit
Person: An individual being, intellectually viable. Christendom teaches that God is "three Persons in one God." So "person" means what I said, to the self-described Christian community.

Spirit: A body that is not terrestrial. Paul explained the difference in I Corinthians 15: 40-53.
1. Would you accept that a person can be defined as, one who has the capacity to reason, who has emotion and will?
2. If a spirit not terrestrial does it mean it is their nature visible or invisible?

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Re: When You Stand Before Jesus, Will You Say To Him "You Are Not God?"

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Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:27 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:43 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:24 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:17 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:25 pm
slowrider wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:17 am
Benson wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:00 pm Simple concept, simple question. Will you say that to Him to His face?
I know Jesus is God.
He is my God.
He is in me and I am in Him.

If He were not God then I could not do all things in Him.
In God the Christ I can do all things.
Jesus is true God. (1 John 5:20)
No one is called in the form of God before He became human. (Phil 2:6)
I John 5:20 doesn't say that Jesus is the true God. If one reads the verse carefully, one can see that the true God is the one mentioned before it mentions Jesus. Jesus himself said that the Father ONLY is the true God. (John 17:3) The "form of God" is being a spirit Person. There are lots of angels who are spirit Persons, in the form of God. Jesus is in the form of God in that sense, as well.
Maybe we have different definition of terms here, may I know what is your definition from lexicon of;
1. person
2. spirit
Person: An individual being, intellectually viable. Christendom teaches that God is "three Persons in one God." So "person" means what I said, to the self-described Christian community.

Spirit: A body that is not terrestrial. Paul explained the difference in I Corinthians 15: 40-53.
1. Would you accept that a person can be defined as, one who has the capacity to reason, who has emotion and will?
2. If a spirit not terrestrial does it mean it is their nature visible or invisible?
1. Yes, that's a satisfactory definition of a person.
2. A spirit is invisible. (It can take on the form of a physical person, at will, just as the angels who appeared to Abraham and Lot.)

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Re: When You Stand Before Jesus, Will You Say To Him "You Are Not God?"

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onewithhim wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:44 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:27 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:43 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:24 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:17 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:25 pm
slowrider wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:17 am
Benson wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:00 pm Simple concept, simple question. Will you say that to Him to His face?
I know Jesus is God.
He is my God.
He is in me and I am in Him.

If He were not God then I could not do all things in Him.
In God the Christ I can do all things.
Jesus is true God. (1 John 5:20)
No one is called in the form of God before He became human. (Phil 2:6)
I John 5:20 doesn't say that Jesus is the true God. If one reads the verse carefully, one can see that the true God is the one mentioned before it mentions Jesus. Jesus himself said that the Father ONLY is the true God. (John 17:3) The "form of God" is being a spirit Person. There are lots of angels who are spirit Persons, in the form of God. Jesus is in the form of God in that sense, as well.
Maybe we have different definition of terms here, may I know what is your definition from lexicon of;
1. person
2. spirit
Person: An individual being, intellectually viable. Christendom teaches that God is "three Persons in one God." So "person" means what I said, to the self-described Christian community.

Spirit: A body that is not terrestrial. Paul explained the difference in I Corinthians 15: 40-53.
1. Would you accept that a person can be defined as, one who has the capacity to reason, who has emotion and will?
2. If a spirit not terrestrial does it mean it is their nature visible or invisible?
1. Yes, that's a satisfactory definition of a person.
2. A spirit is invisible. (It can take on the form of a physical person, at will, just as the angels who appeared to Abraham and Lot.)
1. As those capacity the Holy Spirit has can He be referred as a person? Yes or no.
2. As spirit is invisible, can it have flesh and bone?

1 Cor 2:10-11, which states, "For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God."

This passage emphasizes the Holy Spirit's ability to reveal deep truths and understand God's mind, which can be interpreted as a form of reasoning.

Acts 13:2
The Holy Spirit speaks and gives instructions to set apart Barnabas and Saul for a work.

Ephesians 4:30
The Holy Spirit can be grieved, which shows that the Holy Spirit has emotions.

1Co 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:25 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:44 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:27 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:43 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:24 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:17 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:25 pm
slowrider wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:17 am
Benson wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:00 pm Simple concept, simple question. Will you say that to Him to His face?
I know Jesus is God.
He is my God.
He is in me and I am in Him.

If He were not God then I could not do all things in Him.
In God the Christ I can do all things.
Jesus is true God. (1 John 5:20)
No one is called in the form of God before He became human. (Phil 2:6)
I John 5:20 doesn't say that Jesus is the true God. If one reads the verse carefully, one can see that the true God is the one mentioned before it mentions Jesus. Jesus himself said that the Father ONLY is the true God. (John 17:3) The "form of God" is being a spirit Person. There are lots of angels who are spirit Persons, in the form of God. Jesus is in the form of God in that sense, as well.
Maybe we have different definition of terms here, may I know what is your definition from lexicon of;
1. person
2. spirit
Person: An individual being, intellectually viable. Christendom teaches that God is "three Persons in one God." So "person" means what I said, to the self-described Christian community.

Spirit: A body that is not terrestrial. Paul explained the difference in I Corinthians 15: 40-53.
1. Would you accept that a person can be defined as, one who has the capacity to reason, who has emotion and will?
2. If a spirit not terrestrial does it mean it is their nature visible or invisible?
1. Yes, that's a satisfactory definition of a person.
2. A spirit is invisible. (It can take on the form of a physical person, at will, just as the angels who appeared to Abraham and Lot.)
1. As those capacity the Holy Spirit has can He be referred as a person? Yes or no.
2. As spirit is invisible, can it have flesh and bone?
Simply put:

Can the Holy Spirit be referred to as a Person? NO.
An invisible Person cannot have flesh and bone or flesh and anything. No flesh in heaven.

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onewithhim wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:24 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:25 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:44 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:27 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:43 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:24 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:17 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:25 pm
slowrider wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:17 am
Benson wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:00 pm Simple concept, simple question. Will you say that to Him to His face?
I know Jesus is God.
He is my God.
He is in me and I am in Him.

If He were not God then I could not do all things in Him.
In God the Christ I can do all things.
Jesus is true God. (1 John 5:20)
No one is called in the form of God before He became human. (Phil 2:6)
I John 5:20 doesn't say that Jesus is the true God. If one reads the verse carefully, one can see that the true God is the one mentioned before it mentions Jesus. Jesus himself said that the Father ONLY is the true God. (John 17:3) The "form of God" is being a spirit Person. There are lots of angels who are spirit Persons, in the form of God. Jesus is in the form of God in that sense, as well.
Maybe we have different definition of terms here, may I know what is your definition from lexicon of;
1. person
2. spirit
Person: An individual being, intellectually viable. Christendom teaches that God is "three Persons in one God." So "person" means what I said, to the self-described Christian community.

Spirit: A body that is not terrestrial. Paul explained the difference in I Corinthians 15: 40-53.
1. Would you accept that a person can be defined as, one who has the capacity to reason, who has emotion and will?
2. If a spirit not terrestrial does it mean it is their nature visible or invisible?
1. Yes, that's a satisfactory definition of a person.
2. A spirit is invisible. (It can take on the form of a physical person, at will, just as the angels who appeared to Abraham and Lot.)
1. As those capacity the Holy Spirit has can He be referred as a person? Yes or no.
2. As spirit is invisible, can it have flesh and bone?
Simply put:

Can the Holy Spirit be referred to as a Person? NO.
An invisible Person cannot have flesh and bone or flesh and anything. No flesh in heaven.
You yourself have the capacity to reason, had emotion and will I presume.
Do you consider yourself a person or not?

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Capbook wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:49 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:24 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:25 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:44 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:27 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:43 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:24 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:17 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:25 pm
slowrider wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:17 am
I know Jesus is God.
He is my God.
He is in me and I am in Him.

If He were not God then I could not do all things in Him.
In God the Christ I can do all things.
Jesus is true God. (1 John 5:20)
No one is called in the form of God before He became human. (Phil 2:6)
I John 5:20 doesn't say that Jesus is the true God. If one reads the verse carefully, one can see that the true God is the one mentioned before it mentions Jesus. Jesus himself said that the Father ONLY is the true God. (John 17:3) The "form of God" is being a spirit Person. There are lots of angels who are spirit Persons, in the form of God. Jesus is in the form of God in that sense, as well.
Maybe we have different definition of terms here, may I know what is your definition from lexicon of;
1. person
2. spirit
Person: An individual being, intellectually viable. Christendom teaches that God is "three Persons in one God." So "person" means what I said, to the self-described Christian community.

Spirit: A body that is not terrestrial. Paul explained the difference in I Corinthians 15: 40-53.
1. Would you accept that a person can be defined as, one who has the capacity to reason, who has emotion and will?
2. If a spirit not terrestrial does it mean it is their nature visible or invisible?
1. Yes, that's a satisfactory definition of a person.
2. A spirit is invisible. (It can take on the form of a physical person, at will, just as the angels who appeared to Abraham and Lot.)
1. As those capacity the Holy Spirit has can He be referred as a person? Yes or no.
2. As spirit is invisible, can it have flesh and bone?
Simply put:

Can the Holy Spirit be referred to as a Person? NO.
An invisible Person cannot have flesh and bone or flesh and anything. No flesh in heaven.
You yourself have the capacity to reason, had emotion and will I presume.
Do you consider yourself a person or not?
I can't imagine why you are asking me that question. Please post your ideas about whether or not I am a person.

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