Historical Jesus scholars make a distinction between the historical Jesus and the "Christ of Faith". Yet some of these same scholars ( some of the Theistic ones) instead of worshiping only the God who the historical Jesus preached, also venerate, if not actually worship the "Christ of Faith", usually as part of the Trinity.
This seems a bit odd, since they realize that the historical Jesus never preached the "Christ of Faith" but rather only the Father YHVH and His Kingdom.
Is the "Christ of Faith" a God that humans in their devotion have made out of Jesus? In effect, an idol? Have humans idolized, and thus Deified Jesus?
Is the "Christ of Faith" an idol?
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Is the "Christ of Faith" an idol?
Post #1 My theological positions:
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
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Re: Who was the "Disciple Jesus loved"?
Post #31tam wrote: Peace to you EJ,
In that thread, post # 4 you said that Lazarus was present at the last supper, and one of the 12. I don't think Lazarus was one of the original 12 apostles. We know all their names, and Lazarus was not among them.Elijah John wrote:Refer to post 22 where you said the disciple Christ loved was an eyewitness who recorded what he saw. Polonius quoted you on this in post 23. And now you say this eye witness is Lazarus?tam wrote: Peace to you Polonius,
polonius wrote: Tam posted:
Question: Who are you claiming was the "disciple Christ loved." The usual answer can be shown to be a misconception.No your suggestion does not seem more likely at all. The disciple Christ loved was an eyewitness and he simply recorded what he heard his Lord say (albeit not in English).
Lazarus. We discussed this on your thread here:
viewtopic.php?t=34470&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Peace again to you!
Yes.
Did Lazarus write a Gospel?
Yes, the book commonly attributed to John. See the link.
He wrote that fourth gospel.What did Lazarus record?
Peace again to you!
My theological positions:
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
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Re: Who was the "Disciple Jesus loved"?
Post #32[Replying to post 29 by Elijah John]
Lazarus is also named Simon.
Simon Lazarus. Simon the Leper, of Bethany. Simon the Zealot/Caananite (not meaning the political movement, but meaning instead the one who is zealous for Christ, out of love for Christ).
This is all discussed in detail on the following thread:
viewtopic.php?t=34470&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Lazarus is also named Simon.
Simon Lazarus. Simon the Leper, of Bethany. Simon the Zealot/Caananite (not meaning the political movement, but meaning instead the one who is zealous for Christ, out of love for Christ).
This is all discussed in detail on the following thread:
viewtopic.php?t=34470&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
