This video is showing conservtives in Orange county California , protesting at a benefit for charity by Muslims.
I think the video speaks for itself.
While the protesters have the legal right to protest, is this protest justified, or is it in the same category as the West boro Church protesting funerals? (or someplace in between?)
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Protesting Muslims for no reason
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Protesting Muslims for no reason
Post #1“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�
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Is it?? You make the claim, yet, I bet you would feel very insulted if the Mormon Church ran a charity event, and people showed up because the FLDS promotes forced marriage to underage women, and protested 'those Mormons' for promoting pedophiliadianaiad wrote:Depends entirely on the specific charity. the point is, goat, more than one Muslim "charity" raises funds for the needy---needy terrorists who want more guns and bombs.Goat wrote:Do you feel the same about Christian Charities?? How about Jewish Charities or Hindu Charities?Wootah wrote:I would definitely look at where their funds go.Goat wrote:Forgive me for the hyperbole, How about.. Are these people the terrorists the speakers you are defending claim?
That said, yes, I carefully investigate "where funds go" for any charity, Christian, Muslim---or secular. Not to do so would be an incredibly stupid thing to do---and not doing so is what makes people prime marks for con artists.
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No, I just figure that's business as usual.Goat wrote:Is it?? You make the claim, yet, I bet you would feel very insulted if the Mormon Church ran a charity event, and people showed up because the FLDS promotes forced marriage to underage women, and protested 'those Mormons' for promoting pedophiliadianaiad wrote:Depends entirely on the specific charity. the point is, goat, more than one Muslim "charity" raises funds for the needy---needy terrorists who want more guns and bombs.Goat wrote:Do you feel the same about Christian Charities?? How about Jewish Charities or Hindu Charities?Wootah wrote:I would definitely look at where their funds go.Goat wrote:Forgive me for the hyperbole, How about.. Are these people the terrorists the speakers you are defending claim?
That said, yes, I carefully investigate "where funds go" for any charity, Christian, Muslim---or secular. Not to do so would be an incredibly stupid thing to do---and not doing so is what makes people prime marks for con artists.
Of course the difference here is that the CoJCoLDS is NOT the FLDS, so I'd tell those demonstrators to go find the right folks. In this case (with the demonstrators at this Muslim charity event), though I deplore the way in which they demonstrated, the facts are--this particular charity is not as lily wonderful as you want to think. They DID, after all, invite not just one, but several, terrorist supporters to speak.
If that doesn't ring the alarm bells, then I can only figure that deafness is the cause.
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Yet, you are blinding assuming this Islamic charity needs to be monitored to see where the money goes. That sounds like you are applying a double standard to me.dianaiad wrote:No, I just figure that's business as usual.Goat wrote:Is it?? You make the claim, yet, I bet you would feel very insulted if the Mormon Church ran a charity event, and people showed up because the FLDS promotes forced marriage to underage women, and protested 'those Mormons' for promoting pedophiliadianaiad wrote:Depends entirely on the specific charity. the point is, goat, more than one Muslim "charity" raises funds for the needy---needy terrorists who want more guns and bombs.Goat wrote:Do you feel the same about Christian Charities?? How about Jewish Charities or Hindu Charities?Wootah wrote:I would definitely look at where their funds go.Goat wrote:Forgive me for the hyperbole, How about.. Are these people the terrorists the speakers you are defending claim?
That said, yes, I carefully investigate "where funds go" for any charity, Christian, Muslim---or secular. Not to do so would be an incredibly stupid thing to do---and not doing so is what makes people prime marks for con artists.
Of course the difference here is that the CoJCoLDS is NOT the FLDS, so I'd tell those demonstrators to go find the right folks. In this case (with the demonstrators at this Muslim charity event), though I deplore the way in which they demonstrated, the facts are--this particular charity is not as lily wonderful as you want to think. They DID, after all, invite not just one, but several, terrorist supporters to speak.
If that doesn't ring the alarm bells, then I can only figure that deafness is the cause.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�
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Post #34
To dry up funding for terrorists, stop buying Saudi oil. As usual, it is the uber-rich US elites such as the Bushes and Cheney/Halliburton who are responsible but untouched by media scrutiny. Why aren't the Tea Party Islamaphobes picketing Exxon et al?
Read more: http://blogcritics.org/politics/article ... z1Gxsm1HGT
Another sage bit of advice makes too much sense to be taken seriously by the demagogues and those that hop to their tune:

Following are lists of gas station brand names that do and do not import oil from the Persian Gulf.
Gas station brands that import Persian Gulf oil
Shell
Chevron
Texaco
Exxon
Mobil
Marathon
Speedway
Diamond Shamrock
Gas station brands that DO NOT import Persian Gulf oil
Sunoco
Conoco
Sinclair
BP / Amoco
Citgo *
Read more: http://blogcritics.org/politics/article ... z1Gxsm1HGT
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3584.htm#relationsThe continued availability of reliable sources of oil, particularly from Saudi Arabia, remains important to the prosperity of the United States as well as to Europe and Japan. Saudi Arabia is one of the leading sources of imported oil for the United States, providing more than one million barrels/day of oil to the U.S. market. The U.S. is Saudi Arabia's largest trading partner, and Saudi Arabia is the largest U.S. export market in the Middle East.
Another sage bit of advice makes too much sense to be taken seriously by the demagogues and those that hop to their tune:
Of course, there is an alternative to terrorism. It's
called justice... Arundhati Roy

" The corporate grip on opinion in the United States
is one of the wonders of the Western world. No First
World country has ever managed to eliminate so
entirely from its media all objectivity - much less
dissent." Gore Vidal
is one of the wonders of the Western world. No First
World country has ever managed to eliminate so
entirely from its media all objectivity - much less
dissent." Gore Vidal
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There is absolutely nothing 'blind' about 'assuming' that a Muslim charity that invites terrorist supporters to speak would require monitoring to 'see where the money goes.'Goat wrote:Yet, you are blinding assuming this Islamic charity needs to be monitored to see where the money goes. That sounds like you are applying a double standard to me.dianaiad wrote:No, I just figure that's business as usual.Goat wrote:Is it?? You make the claim, yet, I bet you would feel very insulted if the Mormon Church ran a charity event, and people showed up because the FLDS promotes forced marriage to underage women, and protested 'those Mormons' for promoting pedophiliadianaiad wrote:Depends entirely on the specific charity. the point is, goat, more than one Muslim "charity" raises funds for the needy---needy terrorists who want more guns and bombs.Goat wrote:Do you feel the same about Christian Charities?? How about Jewish Charities or Hindu Charities?Wootah wrote:I would definitely look at where their funds go.Goat wrote:Forgive me for the hyperbole, How about.. Are these people the terrorists the speakers you are defending claim?
That said, yes, I carefully investigate "where funds go" for any charity, Christian, Muslim---or secular. Not to do so would be an incredibly stupid thing to do---and not doing so is what makes people prime marks for con artists.
Of course the difference here is that the CoJCoLDS is NOT the FLDS, so I'd tell those demonstrators to go find the right folks. In this case (with the demonstrators at this Muslim charity event), though I deplore the way in which they demonstrated, the facts are--this particular charity is not as lily wonderful as you want to think. They DID, after all, invite not just one, but several, terrorist supporters to speak.
If that doesn't ring the alarm bells, then I can only figure that deafness is the cause.
.........at least, by anybody who is thinking about donating.
As to that, though...did you miss the part where I said that I would investigate 'where the money goes' for ANY charity I am considering giving money to? It would be not simply naive, but incredibly stupid, not to do so.
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Hey Debunkem.........I'm Hispanic, as is our new GOP governor.DeBunkem wrote:Native Americans, Blacks, Irish, Italians, Chinese, Hispanics, Japanese, Leftists, unions, Muslims....the Establishment elites always have a new way to direct the anger away from their thievery in Congress and Wall Street. Divide the non-wealthy and set them against each other while they rob us blind. In Wisconsin they are beginning to "get it." The FOX News crowd never will.
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