France: Ban the Burka

[Ms_Maryam]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/06 ... index.html

PARIS, France (CNN) -- The French National Assembly announced Tuesday the creation of an inquiry into whether women in France should be allowed to wear the burka, one day after President Nicolas Sarkozy controversially told lawmakers that the traditional Muslim garment was "not welcome" in France.

A cross-party panel of 32 lawmakers will investigate whether the traditional Muslim garment poses a threat to the secular nature of the French constitution. They are due to report back with their recommendations in six months.

Last week 57 lawmakers -- led by communist legislator Andre Gerin -- signed a petition calling for a study into the feasibility of legislation to ban the burka in public places.

On Monday Sarkozy declared in a keynote parliamentary address that the burka, which covers women from head to toe, is "not welcome" in France. Watch why burkas are such a controversial issue in France »

"The problem of the burka is not a religious problem. This is an issue of a woman's freedom and dignity. This is not a religious symbol. It is a sign of subservience; it is a sign of lowering. I want to say solemnly, the burka is not welcome in France," Sarkozy told lawmakers.

The right of Muslim women to cover themselves is fiercely debated in France, which has a large Muslim minority but also a staunchly secular constitution. Should Muslim women in France be banned from wearing the burka? Sound Off below

In 2004, the French parliament passed legislation banning Muslim girls from wearing headscarves in state schools, prompting widespread Muslim protests. The law also banned other conspicuous religious symbols including Sikh turbans, large Christian crucifixes and Jewish skull caps.

Last year, France's top court denied a Moroccan woman's naturalization request on the grounds that she wore a burka.

Some lawmakers have called for burkas to be banned completely, claiming they are degrading to women. They also include housing minister Fadela Amara, a Muslim-born women's rights campaigner, who has called the garment "a kind of tomb for women."

"We cannot accept in our country women trapped behind a fence, cut off from social life, deprived of any identity. This is not the idea that we have of a woman's dignity," Sarkozy said Monday.

But French Muslim leaders say that only a small minority of women wear the full veil and had previously criticized calls for the issue to be the subject of a parliamentary inquiry.

"To raise the subject like this, via a parliamentary committee, is a way of stigmatizing Islam and the Muslims of France," Mohammed Moussaoui, the head of the French Council for the Muslim Religion, told AFP last week.

"We are shocked by the idea parliament should be put to work on such a marginal issue."

According to CIA estimates, between 5 and 10 percent of France's 64 million population are Muslim. The country does not collect its own statistics on religion in accordance with laws enshrining France's status as a secular state.

France is not the only European Union country to have considered banning the burka. Dutch lawmakers voted in favor of a ban in 2005, although the government of the time was defeated in elections before it could pass legislation to outlaw the garment.

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1. Do you agree/disagree with President Sarkozy's stance on this?

2. Would you be for/against a ban on the Burka? Other religious wear (the cross, turbans, Jewish cap)?

[McCulloch]

Again, nakedness and 'revealing' are different issues. And if you want my honest opinion, I think way too many people are afraid of nudity.

I would agree. So does my wife.

Who decides what's naughty and what's not?

The public, I suppose. Over here it's been agreed that women's nipples (What's up with that?) and everyone's genitals are off-limits for public display.

In 1991, Gwen Jacob was arrested for walking down a street in Guelph, Ontario while topless. She was acquitted in 1996 by the highest court in Ontario. Unfortunately to many frustrated adolescent males, this has not brought on a rash of topless women in public. But it has only been only thirteen years, it may catch on any time now.

[Coyotero]

One thing that perplexes me constantly about this country is the national fear of the naked human form.

You can turn on cable TV at any time and see people murdered, destroyed, fighting, killing, maiming, torture... But when you see someone's nipple for five seconds during the super bowl it's like a national scandal.

Don't make no sense... Free the boobies!

[Scottie]

I'm in Scotland. Otherwise known as the Socialist Republic of Scotland

We have always been more left wing than the rest of the UK and since we were given our own parliament in 1999 we have enacted more socialist policies than the rest of the UK. We have a different legal and educational system than the rest of the Uk -always have, it was a requirement of the 1707 Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_Union_17071707 Act)

Sorry for the history lesson. I'll stop now!