The Logic of Satan's Temptation to Eve

[Skeptical]

[Skeptical]

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[Gracchus]

[Replying to Skeptical in post #21]
For most Christians and Muslims, discussing religion is always proselytizing. The more people who believe the nonsense the easier they find it to believe.

[Skeptical]

Please show where in the Bible he tells that?

1 Timothy 2:14 and 2 Corinthians 11:3.

What I meant is, Bible tells God said "God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good". Gen. 1:31. Because of that, maybe Adam and Eve thought that is why God created, because it was very good.

I'm just going by verses like 1 Timothy 2:14, 2 Corinthians 11:3, and Romans 5:12, etc.

[Skeptical]

[Skeptical]

Okay I think I see the ...deviation now. I dealt with the question ...

WHY DIDN'T GOD JUST PUT THE TREE SOMEWHERE THAT ADAM AND EVE COULD NOT REACH IT? ...

... you're deviating from what I was actually asking in the OP.

But what you really wanted to know is ...

... why would God put [the tree]within reach...?

I looked at ..."Why didn't God put the tree out of reach ?" .... But you wanted to know "Why did he put the tree within reach?" ie not out of reach.

I see now your accusation of deviation was entirely reasonsble.

Fortunately the answer to your entirely different question is entirely the same...because it was a TEST.

Well, yes. According to God's straightforward test of Adam and Eve. However, when the serpent said differently from what God told them, why didn't Adam and Eve's perfect adult brains reason: Now why would God's test include a tree that was in our reach that he didn't want us to get to because it would give us magical or godly abilities? Because that would be like if someone has something that they really didn't want someone else to have, however, at the same time, they would leave it right out in the open where that someone else could take it from them or have some of it for themselves. It doesn't make sense.

Also, according to Bible chronology, we're all supposed to be 6000 plus years removed from Adam and Eve. But why is it that I am able to figure something like that out, but they couldn't?

[JehovahsWitness]

Well, yes. According to God's straightforward test of Adam and Eve. ...

Exactly! You are correct, it was indeed a straight forward test that they both evidently understood: do not eat from the tree. Their deliberate violation if that simple command was a direct act of rebellion.




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[Replying to Skeptical in post #21]
For most Christians and Muslims, discussing religion is always proselytizing. The more people who believe the nonsense the easier they find it to believe.

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[JehovahsWitness]

And from what I understand, JWs ... believe that everything in it is literal and historical.

Not at all, Jehovah's Witnesses believe the bible including the book of Genesis has many expressions that should not be taken literally,. For example the creative "days" in Genesis chapters 1 and two, should not be taken to be literal 24 hour days and the "evening " and "morning" refered to not literal moments of sunset but periods that mark the end of each period.

So while we hold that the events in Genesis were all historical realities, some of the expressions should be taken contextually to be poetic or non-literal.




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