JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:52 pm
collin88x wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:34 pm
Galatians 3:28 (KJV) "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for
ye are all one in Christ Jesus."
So by this you believe that a gentile is on an equal playing field with an Israelite?
That's what the scripture say, so that is what I believe. In Christ there IS no Jew or Greek (Gentile) , just as there is no male or female.
All are on an equal footing in Christ; it says so right there in the scripture!
collin88x wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:34 pm
What makes you think he wants actual
gentiles who have nothing to do with the house of Israel...?
It don't work that way.
Well apparenttly God didn't get your memo.
In Christ God found a way to bring non Israelites, who originally would have had no part in the Abrahamic promose* into that promise.
JW
*The Abrahamic promise is a special promise God made regarding the decendants of that one to rule the earth one day.
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There you go again ..... You keep lumping all 12 tribes of Israel into the name of the Jews. That's where you're messing up brother.
You say Jew nor Greek means Israelite vs non Israelite in the flesh.
This is where you're understanding is getting confounded.
Again the term JEW only represented a small section of the nation of Israel. It never represented all 12 tribes.
So you cannot lump all 12 tribes into the Jews section.
What is a Jew? A Jew is an Israelite who descends from the tribe of Judah and tribes involved with the kingdom of Judah which is Judah, Benjamin and Levi..
This is why your belief cannot hold up once this is realized.
God says prove all things. I've been proving that there were 2 sections of Israel at one point, split up into 2 nations and 2 kingdoms, mind you, who actually warred with eachother and hated eachother for centuries.
Think the crips vs bloods. Israel was like that for a few centuries during the split in the nation separating and dividing them as a whole.
Which was not what God intended. Ezekiel 37 explains what he intended for Israel, to be one nation under him.
You can't rule the earth and all people in it if you're divided and beefing with eachother...
It takes time to build the leaders of God's kingdom, this is why it hasn't been restored yet, but the remnant of israel in Christ? Will inherit this position in God's kingdom.
Back to the Jews though. Again only 3 tribes.
So when you say jews and gentiles?! Or Greeks (yes it can be interchangable Greek/gentile but Greek is referring to hellinized jews, which were considered gentiles because they wanted to be like the greeks (who is A GENTILE "nation" (bloodline) which happened to take over and conform a lot of them to their ways, traditions and cultures. Thus the term... "hellinized Jew".
They were referred to as Greek because they acted Greek fluently though they were Israelites in the flesh, thus they were considered a gentile to the Jews who were trying to practice pridefully the traditions of God, purely..
Now Jew nor gentile? It's not Israelite vs non Israelite.
It's the southern Kingdom Israelites (kingdom of Judah=Jews)
Vs the gentiles Israelites, the hellinized jews and those of the northern kingdoms 9 tribes cut off from the old covenant and scattered abroad into all nations..
As God said but the children of Israel will be as the sand of the sea which cannot be measured. And theses people I once declared not my people? (No more old covenant) are now the children the chosen ones of the living God (new covenant)
In order for you to hold on to that as truth what you believe? You're going to contradict the word of God and many of the prophecies and events in the past that lead up to the point of the necessity of Christ.
Because again ... Jew only represented 3 tribes of Israel. They only represented one nation. (Kingdom of Judah) The rest of Israel weren't even being acknowledged as Israel as they were considered gentiles to the Jews for centuries and God commanded them to stay away from Israel and not have no dealings with them. Even though they were blood. Spiritually they were cut off from God's covenant and not regarded as one of their own.
So the rest of Israel was lost but needed SAVING. Which was God's plan all along to unite all 12 back together in him so they can move as one and organize and command the world in righteousness under God & Christ..
That's the gospel..
