So, I became a Christian...

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So, I became a Christian...

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...What next?

Does one just continue as before, with the assurance of eventual heaven? Or, is there something Christians ought to be, think, say and do I am unaware of?

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Avoice wrote: [Replying to post 10 by onewithhim]

He is a lousy example of who to emulate.

He didn't care if his disciples plucked corn on the sabbath. His way is disgusting. He is disgusting. Listening to him negate the laws. If he really loved anyone he tell them to keep the laws rather that downplay them. Disgusting he is.
Yeshua upheld the law. He said not one jot or tittle would pass from it till all the prophets and law came to pass. IE, never. For if one teaches others to disobey the least of these commandments will be least in the kingdom. He brought nothing new, he called Isreal back to the Torah because their traditions negated part of it. Eating is not prohibited by Moses on the Sabbath, servile work is. Therefore them eating corn was not servile work. They were eating the portion of a field left to the hungry and poor.

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brianbbs67 wrote: Following the "Way of Christ", ie, his manner of living and beliefs, is a good start. Only study will reveal this to you. So, study everything about this religion and as James said, " Test everything and hold fast to what is true."
You do know that Jesus was celibate??? Are you???

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brianbbs67 wrote:Eating is not prohibited by Moses on the Sabbath...
Gathering is prohibited, though, and being hungry isn't an excuse. Yahweh was pretty clear about that. It is one's own responsibility to gather enough on Friday to make it through Saturday. He literally called the attempt to gather food on the Sabbath a "refusal to obey My commandments and laws."

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Why? What for? Why did you become a Christian?

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[Replying to post 5 by brianbbs67]

"Test everything"

That is what a Christian doesn't do. They just believe everything the gospels tell them

Did they test that supposed virgin birth prophecy ? If they did they'd know Isaiah was talking to King Ahaz and the prophecy was for him to see. And it's not about Jesus born 790 years later. It's not even about the Messiah

Did they test the supposed fulfilled prophecy "out of Egypt I called my son?". If they did they'd know it isn't about Joseph, Mary and Jesus leaving Egypt. But that it was aboutvthevtine if the exodus during the time of Pharoah.

Did they test the supposed fulfilled prophecy "Rachel weeping for her children?". If they did they'd know it isn't about Herods [supposed] killing of the children. No...it's about the Babylonian exile.

I COULD GO ON

TEST EVERYTHING....WHY ARE YOU GUYS NOT TESTING? The Christian testament writers are making fools out of you. They lie to your face. And here's the slap to the face: you hold the book in your very hands that proves they are lying. And rather then expose them as liars they count in you to sit quietly while it sucks in the next generation. If you refuse to check their claims you... YOU are as guilty as they are for allowing the lies to continue.

Truth...can you speak the truth? Go...look up these three supposed fulfilled prophecies and tell me I am lying. Or tell me I speak the truth. Then go look in the mirror and see if the man or woman he sees in the reflection really loves his neighbor. Loves his neighbor or himself.

Just speak the truth. No matter where it takes you.

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Avoice, Christians already recognized the Messiah and now follow him. The Jews are still waiting for him. It is as if you were in a race and insulting the one in front of you as if that could delay him to reach the goal, when your goal should be the same, cause you are in the same race and under the same rules.

Every religious person wishes to reach a goal: to please the God whom he serves ... to gain His approval; not you or jews more than anyone else. God wants to accept everyone who comes to Him, not some more than others ... That is the God I know from the Hebrew Scriptures and Greek Scriptures too.

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Re: So, I became a Christian...

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[Replying to post 6 by For_The_Kingdom]

You mention training in apologetics .

I could pick from many supposed fulfilled prophecies as there are so many. But I will pick the first one mentioned. On the first page of the Christian testament .

The writer of Mathew
(whoever that was as it was written anonymously)
He writes that Jesus' birth was not just an ordinary event. Oh no! It was foretold! He then quotes from Isaiah chapter 7
"A virgin will conceive and bare a son..."

From this Christians believe Jesus came from a virgin birth.

Tell me what is written by Isaiah that has you believe this is about Jesus or the Messiah ?

And when I say what was written by Isaiah I mean just that. Your answer needs to come from an accurate translation.

How is chapter 7 especially verse 14 a prediction or prophecy of the coming Messiah?

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[Replying to post 27 by Avoice]

Avoice, did you know that Jews have failed on identifying the Messiah many times in their history?

You can visit here and check: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_J ... _claimants

How can you be so sure that the Jews can know something with certainty about identifying the Messiah when they have failed so many times to recognize him?

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Donray wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote: Following the "Way of Christ", ie, his manner of living and beliefs, is a good start. Only study will reveal this to you. So, study everything about this religion and as James said, " Test everything and hold fast to what is true."
You do know that Jesus was celibate??? Are you???
Jesus never discouraged marriage. He never viewed marriage as something to be avoided. By the same token he never had his own house or "a place to lay his head," so should we steer clear of buying a house?

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onewithhim wrote:
Donray wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote: Following the "Way of Christ", ie, his manner of living and beliefs, is a good start. Only study will reveal this to you. So, study everything about this religion and as James said, " Test everything and hold fast to what is true."
You do know that Jesus was celibate??? Are you???
Jesus never discouraged marriage. He never viewed marriage as something to be avoided. By the same token he never had his own house or "a place to lay his head," so should we steer clear of buying a house?
1 Corinthians 7:1-9 1Now for the matters you wrote about: "It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman." 2But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that. 8Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

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