What is a true Christain?

[Donray]

Do ALL any person that calls themselves a Christain get to heaven? That is, does it matter what Christain religion you belive in or does God have his religion (Orthodoxy) and all other religions are heresy? For example, JW belive in two gods (one the GOD and the other Jesus as a demigod). There are thousands of Christian religions are all of them correct and it does not matter as long as you belive that Jesus rose from the dead?

What beliefs and rituals must a true Christain practice and belive?

Does a true Christain need to go to church every Sunday?
What about confessing sins to a religious leader?
Does God have any standards for a Christain?

[Overcomer]

Being a true Christian means being in a relationship with God through the person of Jesus Christ by the infilling of the Holy Spirit. As such, a Christian is someone who is born again, meaning that their spirits, once dead in sin, have been regenerated or brought alive by the Lord.

And the Jesus about whom we are talking is the second person of the Triune Godhead. There are many people who profess to be followers of Jesus, but if you ask them who Jesus is, you will find that they are not describing the Jesus of the Bible, that is, the Jesus traditionally understood and recognized and preached for 2,000 years by Christians. They will deny his divinity which means they are not following the Christian Jesus, but one they have reinvented for their own religious reasons.

There are two other types of Christians. There are nominal ones, that is, those who call themselves Christian because they attend a church, for example, but they are not in a relationship with Jesus and are not born again which means they are Christians in name only, not in fact, and are as far from God as atheists.

There are also cultural Christians, that is, people who are born and raised in a nation that is built on Christian values. They might list themselves as Christians on the census because they aren't Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu or whatever. It's a way of differentiating themselves from other religious groups. But they, too, are not in a relationship with the one true Christ and their spirits remain dead in sin, and, therefore, they aren't true Christians either.

But make no doubt about it. Being a Christian depends on how one sees Christ and whether he/she knows him intimately in a personal relationship wherein one accepts his gift of salvation through faith, not works, knowing Jesus as the second person of the Trinity who came to earth as God Incarnate. There are groups that use the same terminology as Christians and profess A Jesus Christ who is not THE Jesus Christ. And, unfortunately, some people get fooled by them.

Have at it, JWs! Have at it! I am sure I have given you much fodder! O.

[2timothy316]

[Replying to post 21 by Overcomer]

Have at it, JWs! Have at it! I am sure I have given you much fodder! O.

Not really. There were no Scriptures used to build your case, just doctrinal statements. Trying to compare doctrine vs doctrine without Scripture reference is like comparing a suspected counterfeit bill to another suspected counterfeit bill. Without placing a real bill next to them there is no way to know which is a real bill. As far as I can from this post it is simply a counterfeit doctrine was made to look like real Christianity in the 2nd century.

[JehovahsWitness]

Have at it, JWs! Have at it! I am sure I have given you much fodder! O.

Definition of FODDER.

1 : something fed to domestic animals especially : coarse food for cattle, horses, or sheep.

2 : inferior or readily available material used to supply a heavy demand fodder for tabloids

Yes, I agree with you, your post is indeed full of much "fodder". I'm not sure why you think we JEHOVAHS WITNESSES should be interested in it though.


JW

[For_The_Kingdom]

Those Jehovah's Witnesses who believe in Jesus will be saved.

Not necessarily all those who claim to believe. But it could be.

And this is true in any "Christian" church.

Whosoever does not rule out any denomination or person.

Well, let me put it to you this way; I know from personal experience that when you ask a Jehovah's Witness "What must I do to receive eternal salvation from God (Jehovah)"?

Then answer is never "believe in Jesus Christ for the atonement of your sins" (or any variation of that).

Now, if you think otherwise, conduct an experiment. Go out, find 10 Jehovah's Witness, and ask them "What must I do to receive eternal salvation from Jehovah".

And see all of the answers that they will give you besides "accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior".

Go ahead, do it.

[brianbbs67]

[Replying to post 11 by myth-one.com]



Christianity can be defined as follows

Christianity is faith that follows the example of Jesus Christ as presented in the bible canon.

So even atheists can be Christians?

I cannot imagine how you could conclude that. Following the example means doing as Christ did and one of the first things Christ did was believe in God.


JW

Following Christ is good advice. What did Christ do? bY God, he followed God's instructions. It amazes me how many claim to follow Christ and don't do as he did.

[Tcg]

It amazes me how many claim to follow Christ and don't do as he did.

And those many would very likely say the same of you. There is no one Christ. There are many Christs whose followers claim that the other Christ followers aren't following properly.


They are of course all right, at least in their own evaluation. They all claim to follow Christ and yet others who claim to follow Christ claim those Christ followers aren't following Christ. They are either all right and no one follows Christ or they are all wrong and no one follows Christ.



Tcg

[Elijah John]

Do ALL any person that calls themselves a Christain get to heaven?...………………………...…... There are thousands of Christian religions are all of them correct and it does not matter as long as you belive that Jesus rose from the dead?

Jesus did not teach the necessity of believing in his resurrection as a condition for salvation. That theology is Paul's baby, not Jesus. There is no evidence even among Jesus disciples that any of them believed that as a condition for salvation. During Jesus ministry, were his disciples "true Christians" or not?

[Donray]

So what I gather thus far is that:
It does not matter what Christian religion one belongs.
It does not matter if you were baptized.
It does not matter if you ever go to confession.
It does not matter if you belive the bible is 100% correct or even 10% correct.
It does not matter if you belive in the trinity.
It does not matter how one thinks about heaven or hell.
It does not matter if you think the devil is real.
It does not matter if you belive that God created single cell life and natural selection carried on from there.

Nothing matters except that there is a God and that Jesus dies and was brought from being dead.

I am correct? Don't matter if your a JW, a Moorman, a Catholic or and of the Protestant religions.

What about Islam? Thus far no one has said why Islam is not a Christain religion.

[2ndRateMind]

So what I gather thus far is that:
It does not matter what Christian religion one belongs.
It does not matter if you were baptized.
It does not matter if you ever go to confession.
It does not matter if you belive the bible is 100% correct or even 10% correct.
It does not matter if you belive in the trinity.
It does not matter how one thinks about heaven or hell.
It does not matter if you think the devil is real.
It does not matter if you belive that God created single cell life and natural selection carried on from there.

Nothing matters except that there is a God and that Jesus dies and was brought from being dead.
I am correct?...

Yup, that would be my contention, with a few minor reservations.

What about Islam? Thus far no one has said why Islam is not a Christain religion.

So, of the three Abrahamic faiths, Judaism is the faith that depends on tradition. Islam is the faith that depends on submission to God's will (as it is construed). And Christianity is the faith that depends on universal, unconditional love. You pays your money and takes your choice, I guess.

Best wishes, 2RM.

[JehovahsWitness]

So what I gather thus far is that: It does not matter what Christian religion one belongs. ...

I am correct? Don't matter if your a JW, a Moorman, a Catholic or and of the Protestant religions.

I hope you didn't gather any of that from anything *I* wrote. For Jehovah's Witnesses it most definitely does matter which religion one belongs to. And no, we dont believe someone can be a Muslim and a Christian.



JEHOVAH'S WITNESS





FURTHER READING : Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Believe That They Have the One True Religion?
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesse ... -religion/

Are You Convinced That You Have the Truth? Why?
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2014682


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