Middle School Girls Forced Into Lesbian Kiss

[East of Eden]

http://www.christianpost.com/news/paren ... ool-94523/

Anybody opposed to school prayer here support this?

[East of Eden]

To put it in terms even you can understand, would it be OK if little Ooberman was made to pretend to be a Christian in public schools?

No, that would be against the constitution. They could make me pretend to be a theist, though.

Uh, it wouldn't really, it would just be inappropriate.

But what does religion have to do with date rape (which was what they were teaching about)

More comprehension fail from the ususal suspect. From the link, it was a "presentation on homosexuality and gender identity".

[East of Eden]

Would it be OK to ask Muslim students to pretend to eat pork?

You must be an interminable bore at parties.

I notice you often call your opponents this here when you run out of arguments. Project much?

[808state]

OK fair enough, I acknowledge the difference, but simply asking them to do what to some students is immoral behavior is bad enough. Would it be OK to ask Muslim students to pretend to eat pork?

Well, the idea is that they were meant to ask for a kiss so the other girl could reject it. The idea wasn't to promote lesbianism, but obviously with some middle-schoolers that's where their heads are going to go. When I was in middle-school you couldn't like the color purple without someone calling you gay. That's to be expected unfortunately. But in this context, from what I've read, the request for a kiss wasn't meant to promote homosexuality.

Now, would I be OK with someone being forced to do something they are not comfortable with? Nope.

So that makes it OK? You WOULD separate the boys and girls if you were going to pretend to engage in gay behavior.

The boys and girls were separated because they were dealing with gender specific social issues. While, yes, homosexuality seemed to be addressed (I don't know to what degree), other issues were addressed as well. The boys and girls would have been separated regardless of whether or not issues of sexual orientation were being discussed.

That is the line from the school, which has been caught in an embarrassing situation. It seems the students and parents have other ideas. If it was really about respect they wouldn't subject students to this indignity who might think the whole subject of gay sex, or sex at that age, to be inappropriate. This goes far beyond anti-bullying.

I mean, the controversy here isn't that kids are being talked to about sex in school at 13 or 14 years old. That's been standard practice in the American public school system for decades.

I don't think the school is just trying to cover their butts (this article seems to confirm that:http://www.datesafeproject.org/misrepre ... y-red-hook), there were probably things they could have done better (I don't know, I wasn't there), but it seems much of their story has been taken out of context and sensationalized. Simply looking at the very misleading headline of the article you posted seems to indicate that. You have to ask yourself, why would they want to post a headline like that if it's not true? And if they are going to do that, are they a trustworthy source of information? Hmm.

I'm totally for Atheists pretending to be Christians, Christians pretending to be Muslims, straight kids pretending to be gay, etc. If it's to promote an understanding between these groups. Absolutely.

[Ooberman]

To put it in terms even you can understand, would it be OK if little Ooberman was made to pretend to be a Christian in public schools?

No, that would be against the constitution. They could make me pretend to be a theist, though.

Uh, it wouldn't really, it would just be inappropriate.

It's really not a big deal. It really, really isn't.

Even, God forbid, I had to PRETEND I was something I wasn't...

Your fear of pretend things makes sense... you fear God.

[otseng]

EOE has been caught to be another liar for Jesus.

You must be an interminable bore at parties.

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[Ooberman]

Would it be OK to ask Muslim students to pretend to eat pork?

You must be an interminable bore at parties.

I notice you often call your opponents this here when you run out of arguments. Project much?

I think it's the first time I've used the phrase.

But, I apologize. I shouldn't do anything to get me kicked off of this site. And, maybe apologizing is objectively morally good? I don't know, but I am sorry to make this personal.

Of course, it is personal, since we are talking about individual beliefs, but the larger issue looms: Christianity is irrational.

[100%atheist]

First, I notice that EofE again and again starts posts with untrue or heavily misinterpreted stories. Is [strike]lying[/strike] this a true Christian behavior?

OK fair enough, I acknowledge the difference, but simply asking them to do what to some students is immoral behavior is bad enough. Would it be OK to ask Muslim students to pretend to eat pork?

Now, if you and your kid thinks that not being homophobic is immoral, you can send him/her to a private school of your choice. It's a free country. Alternatively, you can immigrate to a country where homosexuality is legally forbidden. Iran, you know, has no homosexuals.

[East of Eden]

First, I notice that EofE again and again starts posts with untrue or heavily misinterpreted stories. Is [strike]lying[/strike] this a true Christian behavior?

OK fair enough, I acknowledge the difference, but simply asking them to do what to some students is immoral behavior is bad enough. Would it be OK to ask Muslim students to pretend to eat pork?

Now, if you and your kid thinks that not being homophobic is immoral, you can send him/her to a private school of your choice. It's a free country. Alternatively, you can immigrate to a country where homosexuality is legally forbidden. Iran, you know, has no homosexuals.

It might suit you too, they tolerate Christianity even less than our radical secularists.

[East of Eden]

Would it be OK to ask Muslim students to pretend to eat pork?

You must be an interminable bore at parties.

I notice you often call your opponents this here when you run out of arguments. Project much?

I think it's the first time I've used the phrase.

It isn't, you said the same thing to Dianaiad.

But, I apologize. I shouldn't do anything to get me kicked off of this site. And, maybe apologizing is objectively morally good? I don't know, but I am sorry to make this personal.

Of course, it is personal, since we are talking about individual beliefs, but the larger issue looms: Christianity is irrational.

That's not an argument, just an insult. You're good at that.

[Ooberman]

It isn't, you said the same thing to Dianaiad.

Did I? I guess I was wrong, then. It's not a big deal, either.

But, I apologize. I shouldn't do anything to get me kicked off of this site. And, maybe apologizing is objectively morally good? I don't know, but I am sorry to make this personal.

Of course, it is personal, since we are talking about individual beliefs, but the larger issue looms: Christianity is irrational.

That's not an argument, just an insult. You're good at that.

I'm sorry if it offends you. I am, however, bound by my "religion" to be truthful when the truth is required. This is a debate forum and I'd like to debate - not see how well we can avoid the hard questions.

I truly believe Christianity is untenable in the age of science, and that it is, and always has been, a psychological issue, and one that is completely explained by a natural process.

Would you care to debate our competing worldviews with evidence and reason?